(04-08-2017, 06:46 AM)Circe27 Wrote: [ -> ]I never got that myself. I think he will always love Juliette but wasn't still in love with her. He definitely was never in love with Eve, he cared about her but it was a platonic relationship.
He does love Juliette still but is no longer in love with her. His heart has moved on to Adalind despite everything that happened between them. It's impossible for me not to think he's love with Adalind after watching them from season 1 to 3. That is a very dark and turbulent past, even more so than Adalind and Renard when they turned on each other. I think this is what Nick had been struggling with between German and the end of S5, reconciling falling in love with an enemy, why it took him forever to finally tell her he loved her even though it was very apparent he did.
At the hospital after Kelly's birth, when Adalind asked Nick not to be like the people the were before their son, she had already determined that she would and was asking him to do the same, for their son's sake. Both fulfilled that promise, if you will, and Kelly's benefitted from his parents eventually falling in love when they looked past each other's mistakes and had the opportunity to finally see the man, the woman and not the Grimm or hexenbiest. I think it was profound to look past those prejudices.
But by the end of S5 I was getting ready to be disappointed thinking the writers were resetting Nick back to season 1 and 2. I'm glad they didn't. Nick and Adalind grew as individuals in accepting one another and for those not fans of the couple I truly get why this stings as much as it does because of how badly Nick and Juliette were handled when she told him she was a hexenbiest. It was an unfortunate turn of events, especially when Juliette turned vengeful and crazy at the end of S4.
The writers haven't gotten things 100%, even with great character arcs like Eve's, Adalind's and maybe Renard's but to have Eve accepting the hand she was dealt and see the value in the journey (however messed up it was) because it led her to becoming a better version of Juliette and robotic Eve, it is fantastic, speaking a neither fan of any versions of the character.
Apart from my low expectation of the show that they'd go for the easy route of Nick and Juliette, even when I didn't like Nick and Juliette as a couple, I think it worked better to pair Nick with Adalind, a born hexenbiest as a mirror to the resident blutbad and fuchsbau and the problems we saw them go through for being two different species and needing to overcome and show that times and longstanding traditions needed changing. Nick and Adalind are exactly the same but on a greater level because of the historical violent relations between Grimms and hexenbiests. It made me glad when his mother told him to take care of her grandson instead of berating him over falling in love with one of the worst wesen around.
(04-08-2017, 07:39 AM)MarylikesGrimm Wrote: [ -> ] (04-08-2017, 07:09 AM)irukandji Wrote: [ -> ]I also am angry that the show refused to show Nick as a capable and compassionate Grimm who's able to deal with a girlfriend who's changing and she can't understand why. After all, he's the big grimm in all this, the totally different grimm, the prophecy. Yet for all this greatness, he has a short fuse with regard to her predicament.
The show was keeping Nick very immature at that point. Juliette was under too much pressure from Nick to meet all his high expectations. IMO the wedding ring that Nick had bought her became a symbol of the traditional marriage that Nick would not let go of which was not about Adalind per say. Nick expected Juliette to be a vet/grimm partner/mother and hexenbiest. Nick thought he just had to learn to understand her and that issue would go away. Juliette had to give up being a vet without any input from Nick.
Nick didn't expect Juliette to be a Hexenbiest. Initially he wanted to cure her, and eventually suppress it. Although Juliette had struggled the most with accepting Nick being a Grimm, it was Nick's inability to accept Juliette as a hexenbiest that finally destroyed them. Not that he hated her, but that he wanted to fix her. She went crazy as a result because she saw that as a rejection of who she was as an individual. And since then, Nick's carried with him guilt of what he "did" to Juliette, even when falling in love, starting a family that allowed him to be his true self, Juliette's suffering would continue to haunt him because he realises he should have listened to his aunt way back at the start of it all. Eve has accepted herself but Nick will always feel responsible for what happened.
He's found happiness with Adalind and the kids but still sees Eve as being unhappy because he has what he's always wanted and in comparison, she has nothing as some fans have attested. Honestly, I don't know what it would take for Nick to be free of his guilt. That last episode with everyone dying around him is bound to have an effect on him. We've already seen that he and Trubel continue to have nightmares about the things they do. I think Grimms suffer prolonged PTSD or something similar that stays with them till the day they die.
I think that's why Adalind was good for him in that she was supportive of him without making even more demands on him than he could handle. Nick finds in Adalind what he couldn't in Juliette and whatever Juliette needed in a boyfriend/husband, she could never have found it in Nick. They were like oil and water, unable to mix and build something permanent together. Not to say Juliette wasn't a supportive girlfriend, she was, right to the end but it was hampered by the conflict that came with her making concessions for him at her expense and they both paid dearly for it.