(04-06-2017, 04:25 PM)MarylikesGrimm Wrote: [ -> ] (04-06-2017, 04:16 PM)irukandji Wrote: [ -> ]She really torked Juliette off by stating her tryst with Nick was a whopper. She could have been lying just to make Juliette mad or maybe she was being truthful. We don't really know. If she was being truthful, that's a way of ingratiating herself to him. We all know what he thought of their tryst.
I agree with Adalind was trying to upset Juliette then and she told Viktor she did not enjoy it too. She was not talking to Nick so it had nothing do with ingratiating herself to him.
Yes, so was she lying to Juliette and being truthful to Viktor? Or lying to Viktor and being truthful to Juliette? It could go either way. But we all know Nick loved it. As for talking, Adalind's a hexenbiest. They don't have to do a lot of talking to ingratiate themselves.
(04-06-2017, 04:35 PM)irukandji Wrote: [ -> ]As for talking, Adalind's a hexenbiest. They don't have to do a lot of talking to ingratiate themselves.
Adalid was very shy and quiet compared to her usual self for the first few shows of season 5. Adalind was never good with making herself acceptable to the scooby crowd without working for it.
That was with intent. She did not know the people, around her. So she had to watch and get along with them, somehow. And what else could she do? At that time she wasn't a member of the group.
(04-06-2017, 03:00 PM)irukandji Wrote: [ -> ] (04-06-2017, 01:40 PM)Hell Rell Wrote: [ -> ][quote='Hell Rell' pid='54020' dateline='1491511238']
There is no way Adalind thought she was going to take the place of Nick's long-standing girlfriend, even if she were having his child.
The gist I get from your post is that Adalind is under the impression that Nick and Juliette are still together? If so, it seems wacko that she would even approach Nick with a question of protecting her.
(04-06-2017, 11:53 AM)Circe27 Wrote: [ -> ]Well of course she went to the police station to find Nick, she had to tell him she was pregnant and needed his help. How else was she going to tell him? She couldn't risk going to his house because Juliette may have been there.
What I see here is that people are trying to put Adalind's actions as some kind of noble effort, ie, she was only trying to protect her baby. Sure she did. But that wasn't the only reason she was there. This was an opportunity for her to ingratiate herself to Nick. She knows her enemy and is using her enemy's (Juliette's hexenbiest traits) to work to her advantage.
Adalind knew they weren't together. She thought they would get back together once Juliette took the suppressant. That's why Adalind thought Nick was done with her at Bud's house when he was really there to ask her about what was going on with Renard. She thought he had no more use for her because she figured that Juliette took the suppressant.
Who's posting Adalind going to Nick for protection as some noble act? We called it a desperate move to go to him because she felt that he was the only one who would stop Juliette from killing her. Not for her sake, but for his son. That's just saying what happened and I didn't see it framed as a noble act by anyone.
(04-06-2017, 04:25 PM)MarylikesGrimm Wrote: [ -> ]Both Adalind and Eve/Juliette are blamed equally.
No they're not. The same people who are so outraged over Juliette betraying Kelly aren't even concerned that it was Adalind who murdered Marie.
(04-06-2017, 04:16 PM)irukandji Wrote: [ -> ][quote='Circe27' pid='54030' dateline='1491516577']
She really ticked Juliette off by stating her tryst with Nick was a whopper. She could have been lying just to make Juliette mad or maybe she was being truthful. We don't really know. If she was being truthful, that's a way of ingratiating herself to him. We all know what he thought of their tryst.
How would saying her tryst with Nick was a "real whopper" ingratiate herself to Nick when she said it to Juliette and Nick wasn't even there? She planned on kidnapping Juliette. So if everything went to plan, what possible reason could this lead to a positive outcome with Nick?
Nobody said it. At least I didn't read it. Adalind told it to Juliette in season 4
(04-06-2017, 04:57 PM)irukandji Wrote: [ -> ] (04-06-2017, 04:25 PM)MarylikesGrimm Wrote: [ -> ]Both Adalind and Eve/Juliette are blamed equally.
No they're not. The same people who are so outraged over Juliette betraying Kelly aren't even concerned that it was Adalind who murdered Marie.
No they're not. The same people who blame Adalind for every single thing that happens in the show also claim to like Eve/Juliette based on their ship yet they would throw away all their character goals and the actress happiness to be "winners".
Sean and Adalind both contributed to the death of Marie and both of them likely have no idea of it. Monroe or Nick could have kill the fake priest and Sean and Adalind were not there. Adalind was sorry for trying to inject Maria at the beginning of the show.
My elderly mother gave her elderly boyfriend who was in the hospital meat listening to him and not the doctor and he choked to death. My brother and I felt she killed her boyfriend. It was impossible to make her understand that she hurt him. Some people just do not get it.
(04-06-2017, 05:03 PM)Hell Rell Wrote: [ -> ] (04-06-2017, 04:16 PM)irukandji Wrote: [ -> ][quote='Circe27' pid='54030' dateline='1491516577']
She really ticked Juliette off by stating her tryst with Nick was a whopper. She could have been lying just to make Juliette mad or maybe she was being truthful. We don't really know. If she was being truthful, that's a way of ingratiating herself to him. We all know what he thought of their tryst.
How would saying her tryst with Nick was a "real whopper" ingratiate herself to Nick when she said it to Juliette and Nick wasn't even there? She planned on kidnapping Juliette. So if everything went to plan, what possible reason could this lead to a positive outcome with Nick?
Did Nick forget the tryst he had with her? I doubt it.
(04-06-2017, 05:11 PM)MarylikesGrimm Wrote: [ -> ]Sean and Adalind both contributed to the death of Marie and both of them likely have no idea of it. Monroe or Nick could have kill the fake priest and Sean and Adalind were not there. Adalind was sorry for trying to inject Maria at the beginning of the show.
Kenneth killed Kelly, yet Juliette continues to be blamed.
(04-06-2017, 04:57 PM)irukandji Wrote: [ -> ] (04-06-2017, 04:25 PM)MarylikesGrimm Wrote: [ -> ]Both Adalind and Eve/Juliette are blamed equally.
No they're not. The same people who are so outraged over Juliette betraying Kelly aren't even concerned that it was Adalind who murdered Marie.
That has been brought up plenty of times. Some of us have just asked for Renard to stop receiving a free pass for it. They should share the blame and not have it pinned all on Adalind because that's not what happened.
Besides, you included the key word in your statement. Betrayal. Adalind trying to kill Marie wasn't a betrayal. Juliette setting up Kelly was a betrayal. The context is missing from this statement. Adalind gets blame for that but she would've absolutely been torn apart had there been a season 7 and she setup someone in Nick's family. That would've been a betrayal since she was together with Nick and no longer his enemy. We have had several discussions about betrayal stinging more. A terrible action from someone who was one of the gang and Nick's girlfriend, like Juliette, will always be looked at more negatively.
Imagine if Monroe's mother had been killed. We then find out Rosalee set her up for something horrible to happen to her because she was pissed at Monroe. How well do you think that would go over? It would set this forum on fire.
(04-06-2017, 05:13 PM)irukandji Wrote: [ -> ]Did Nick forget the tryst he had with her? I doubt it.
So what difference would saying it to Juliette make?
Once again, how would saying this to Juliette ingratiate herself to Nick? How would taunting his girlfriend be some underlying plan for her to get into Nick's good graces?