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I would agree with you on the importance in this case. Monroe could just as easily have said something like "Furis rubians have been mistaken for the Devil since the Dark Ages." The writers were just putting some extra weight on the idea that people thinking this particular wesen was the Devil was nothing new. The comment didn't have any other significance to the plot.

That's what I was looking for. If the writers are going to the trouble of having Monroe quote some trivia related to the wesen, I expect the trivia to be clear enough to support the current story so it makes sense and is relevant. As it is, we're all making educated guesses on how his trivia connects to Dwight. Monroe could have simply taken his facts a little further and connected the past with the present by adding a sentence or two clarifying how the past connects to Dwight.

Well, Monroe usually did take the long way around to whatever point he was trying to make. But the intent seemed pretty clear to me.

(01-22-2018, 06:24 PM)syscrash Wrote: [ -> ]Here is a good example of what Monroe and the Grimm books provide to the show:

Quote:Narrative exposition is the insertion of important background information within a story; for example, information about the setting, characters' backstories, prior plot events, historical context, etc.[1] In a specifically literary context, exposition appears in the form of expository writing embedded within the narrative.

Here is an example of the purpose of statements:

Quote:Indirect exposition, sometimes called incluing, is a technique of worldbuilding in which the reader is gradually exposed to background information about the world in which a story is set. The idea is to clue the readers in to the world the author is building without them being aware of it. This can be done in a number of ways: through dialogues, flashbacks, characters' thoughts,[3] background details,

This is the structure that writers use. That is why I have a problem when people ignore this process of providing information and claim the information is false or a lie.
Just like the previous post asking how is Monroe providing backstory. This is also the purpose of the Grimm books. All of these things are meant to let the view know what is going on, so they do not have to make assumptions or read between the lines.

You mean like the examples we got throughout 4 seasons that the house Nick and Juliette live in is owned by Nick, not Juliette? With flashbacks of both moving into an empty house instead Nick moving into her house. Then skipping ahead, how He is able to sell his property. If it was Juliette's or co-owned He could not sell it without her death certificate. Yet some will still claim it was her house?

Would that be one of your Indirect Narrative Exposition?

How about the references of Juliette's promiscuous past, starting with her admission of how her grandmother was trying to scare her to keep her out of the back seats of cars when she was a teenager. Her own words in the supermarket scene early on in season one about her previous boyfriend? How about when we meet her college roommate, Alicia and we find out about her multiple interests/partners she had in college? How is that for a Indirect Narrative Exposition?

Were the writers trying to paint a picture of the past of a "not-so-good-toothy-shoe", Juliette? Just asking.

Quote:You mean like the examples we got throughout 4 seasons that the house Nick and Juliette live in is owned by Nick, not Juliette? With flashbacks of both moving into an empty house instead Nick moving into her house. Then skipping ahead, how He is able to sell his property. If it was Juliette's or co-owned He could not sell it without her death certificate. Yet some will still claim it was her house?

Would that be one of your Indirect Narrative Exposition?

Yes they use Exposition to establish the rules. But you do know this show ran for six season. In that time many rules they established in the first season where changed in later seasons. it was first established that Nick became a Grimm because is aunt was dying. Later the rules for becoming a Grimm where changed.
As for the house there was never any mention as to who was on title. They only said it was Nick house or they said it was Julietes house or they said it was Nick and Juliettes house. Actual ownership of property is seldom address in any show.

Quote:How about the references of Juliette's promiscuous past, starting with her admission of how her grandmother was trying to scare her to keep her out of the back seats of cars when she was a teenager. Her own words in the supermarket scene early on in season one about her previous boyfriend? How about when we meet her college roommate, Alicia and we find out about her multiple interests/partners she had in college? How is that for a Indirect Narrative Exposition?

For one you are assuming she sleep with all these people. As in a lot of other shows there are a lot of dates but seldom if ever do they sleep with the people they go out with.

But in answer to your question the Exposition did portray Juliette as someone that did not sit home on weekends. It showed she had a very active social life. That does not make her promiscuous.

This show was done in 2016 during a time when women have sex for the shear pleasure of it. No longer do they feel constrained to have to be in love to have sex.

The actual ownership of the house is Nicks it was proven by him selling the house if the house was in anyway Juliette’s he would not have been able to sell it you can make up something about him using his police connections to sell it if you wish but that wasn’t hinted at on the show, Nick sold the house therefore it was his that’s fact.

(01-22-2018, 08:12 PM)FaceInTheCrowd Wrote: [ -> ]Well, Monroe usually did take the long way around to whatever point he was trying to make. But the intent seemed pretty clear to me.

We've discussed how it could have been better. I think everyone's in agreement on that one and that's good enough for me.

(01-23-2018, 04:20 AM)Henry of green Wrote: [ -> ]The actual ownership of the house is Nicks it was proven by him selling the house if the house was in anyway Juliette’s he would not have been able to sell it you can make up something about him using his police connections to sell it if you wish but that wasn’t hinted at on the show, Nick sold the house therefore it was his that’s fact.

Well Said Henry! N G

(01-23-2018, 04:01 AM)syscrash Wrote: [ -> ]Yes they use Exposition to establish the rules. But you do know this show ran for six season. In that time many rules they established in the first season where changed in later seasons. it was first established that Nick became a Grimm because is aunt was dying. Later the rules for becoming a Grimm where changed.

Not sure you can really say they changed that, seeing as how we never saw another person becoming a grimm.

Wesen children were frightened by parents with the monster "GRIMM",so that they would not go out, to behave themselves, to do their homework.
Human children were told that God would punish them for bad action