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I'm not alone in the harsh on Grimm characters department, henry. You are extremely harsh toward Juliette.

Julette knew full well what would happen to nicks mum for a number of reasons
1,get revenge on Nick
2,she gave a sly smile when she started down the stairs
3,didn't care what happened to the neighbours why feel guilty now
4,never asked to see or know where kellys boby was because she already knew it was missing the head
5,believed new boyfriend would kill Nick in the trap she helped set
It all means she knew everthing beliving henchmen would kill Nick so she could get away and not have Nick hunting her

(11-30-2017, 10:23 AM)Brian4189 Wrote: [ -> ]Julette knew full well what would happen to nicks mum for a number of reasons
1,get revenge on Nick
2,she gave a sly smile when she started down the stairs
3,didn't care what happened to the neighbours why feel guilty now
4,never asked to see or know where kellys boby was because she already knew it was missing the head
5,believed new boyfriend would kill Nick in the trap she helped set
It all means she knew everthing beliving henchmen would kill Nick so she could get away and not have Nick hunting her

Hello Brian,
Welcome to Grimm Forum!
This topic has been much debated. You say:

Quote:Julette knew full well what would happen to nicks mum for a number of reasons

I agree. By "full well" do you believe Hexenette fully knew Kenneth planned to kill her, how he would kill her and he intended to decapitate her?
G&K wrote season 5 and it is done. However, if Hexenette 1. did not die, 2. Chavez placed her under arrest for murder, 3. put her in a Hexen-proof jail and 4. she went to trial would all the evidence viewers saw produce a guilty verdict in a criminal court? If you believe she can evade criminal justice, would a civil court find her guilty (like the O J Simpson trials)?
We know Hexenette was upstairs in Nick's bedroom listening to the vicious murder and decapitation, so her "guilt" is as an accessory and/or accomplice. There is an abundance of legal articles. Here are two you can look at:
https://legal-dictionary.thefreedictiona.../accessory
https://legal-dictionary.thefreedictiona...accomplice
Enjoy!
N G
ps: Assume Chavez followed FBI protocol and properly gathered and handled all physical evidence.

Hi, I think your right, however the reason I think she knew was, it was the bait for Nick to put in a state of shock so that the other henchmen could surpise him and kill him, it went pair shape because he didn'tgo alone and she knew what the plan was from the start

(11-30-2017, 02:00 PM)Henry of green Wrote: [ -> ]New guy, I think if the court could recover the Emails Juliette sent Kelly that would be key for a conviction in court because them emails prove she lured Kelly to town under false pretenses and lied to Kelly claiming the House was safe to place for her to meet Nick.

Hi Henry,
Hexenette sent the betrayal email and Kelly replied immediately. Then Hexenette deleted it from Nick's computer. Could Wu recover the email?
N G

Even if the email can be retrieved, it isn't going to prove a thing. Kelly's body is gone, the house has been scrubbed, and there are no witnesses. So it would in essence be a witch hunt to frame Juliette. Which, by the way, wouldn't work because she has disappeared.

(11-30-2017, 10:23 AM)Brian4189 Wrote: [ -> ]Julette knew full well what would happen to nicks mum for a number of reasons
1,get revenge on Nick
2,she gave a sly smile when she started down the stairs
3,didn't care what happened to the neighbours why feel guilty now
4,never asked to see or know where kellys boby was because she already knew it was missing the head
5,believed new boyfriend would kill Nick in the trap she helped set
It all means she knew everthing beliving henchmen would kill Nick so she could get away and not have Nick hunting her

I think you went easy on her. Don't forget the burning of the trailer, to keep nick out of HIS house, so she could send the email without Nick knowing what she did, so he could have warned his mom. Then the "Nail in the coffin" part. The phone call she got telling Kelly it was OK to come in, Nick was out, front door is unlocked.

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(11-30-2017, 04:27 PM)New Guy Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-30-2017, 02:00 PM)Henry of green Wrote: [ -> ]New guy, I think if the court could recover the Emails Juliette sent Kelly that would be key for a conviction in court because them emails prove she lured Kelly to town under false pretenses and lied to Kelly claiming the House was safe to place for her to meet Nick.

Hi Henry,
Hexenette sent the betrayal email and Kelly replied immediately. Then Hexenette deleted it from Nick's computer. Could Wu recover the email?
N G

Yes, the emails could be recovered. All the emails got to email servers on the sender side and on the receiving side. All this talk about wiping your hard drive you hear on the news is pure bull shit. You can blow up your hard drive, wipe it, format it, make it disappear. Your provider will always have a copy and the provider to the receiver will always have a copy because, guess why? It is against the law for the providers to delete them. They are required by law to keep them forever.

All those hearings we heard about the IRS losing the emails that were sent by some of their employees were lost to corrupted hard drives was a joke to the congressmen, to the news media and to all the public idiots that believe that hog wash.

All emails go from an originator PC, to the originator provider’s mail server. Then it is sent to the recipient’s provider mail server before it reaches the recipient's PC. You can go and destroy both PC’s at each end. Both mail servers will retain copies, and they are constantly backed up multiple times, in case the hard drive they reside gets corrupted. This is demanded by law, not because a provider feels like it

it was not burned so it can be recovered

(12-01-2017, 06:49 AM)brandon Wrote: [ -> ]it was not burned so it can be recovered

brandon, even if the laptop was destroyed. The provider's email server would retain a copy. Easy for the police to get.

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