(12-21-2016, 02:11 PM)irukandji Wrote: [ -> ]Lol, I actually don't see the destruction of the trailer as all the injurious to Nick. He was probably upset at first, but experiencing continual pain? I don't see that as likely
You misunderstood me, its not just only the Trailer being burnt, but the sum of the other things she did to Nick. I understand that if she had just destroyed the trailer, she would have been pardoned by Nick, for certain. But she kept on harming him and those close to him. Certainly, don't we think the death of his mum caused him pain? and his pain still showed through season 5. This was not a hidden fact.
(12-21-2016, 02:11 PM)irukandji Wrote: [ -> ]Juliette was not shown "microwaving" anything at that time. All that was shown is she had powers of levitation. Don't forget that Adalind also had her hexenbiest powers. She was not quite the helpless damsel in distress. All part of the scenario to get Nick over to her side.
I was simply imagining what method of death type she would do. Even if microwaving brains was not involved, but a levetation push was used instead, that alone could harm the baby in her womb.
The second thing is, Adalind knew Juliette was stronger. Adalind wanted to have this baby, she wanted to be a mum again. I saw no flaw in her for wanting these things again and asking Nick for her protection. With her and the baby she carried made her vunerable and still does presently.
(12-21-2016, 02:11 PM)irukandji Wrote: [ -> ]Here's the thing with Kelly. Juliette did not kill her any more than Diana kill her. Juliette told Nick she didn't know Kelly was going to be killed. That tells me Juliette had no knowledge. She's certainly guilty of betrayal but murder? No way.
Yes, she did say so, which the creators made Juliette the biggest moron of the show. Juliette has known in the past that the Royals have always gone after Nick, and wanting to kill Nick or any Grimm family close to him. This was not news for Juliette at all since she first knew of all this in S3.
The thing is, ther inner anger took complete control of her with the help of her HexenB side. When the damage was done, only then the tiniest bit of her human self made her understand what she has really done was something she could never undo. Ofcourse she was going to tell Nick those words that she did not know about his mum was going to be killed, what other excuse could she have given? She had none. It was the best thing for her to say, but deep inside she knew she was bringing Kelly to her death.
But, that was not the end, she tried to kill Nick once he refused to kill her. So honestly, for some saying Juliette had no idea or part in killing her mum is a definaite WOW factor.
(12-21-2016, 02:11 PM)irukandji Wrote: [ -> ]It was obvious Juliette did not want him dead. If she did, she would have levitated the gun at him and had Nick pull the trigger.
Well that must have been one very expensive game she played. And even if so, why did she have to do it? What good did she even get from trying to taunt Nick's friends? ..... nothing. She simply was just put on the bad side that they all agreed never to help her again. So all in all, it still did not give her any positive points for her action.
(12-21-2016, 02:11 PM)irukandji Wrote: [ -> ]I would like some background on what the friends have done or said that lead you to believe they dislike her.
Let us begin this way, they all agreed to kill her when they went after her and Diana. To make up thier minds to kill her, there must have been some sign and kind of hate within them, it could be small or big, but to continue to understand what I meant from my sentence....
one needs to also understand that there are different types of hate. I believe they hated her actions of what she was doing to them that harmed them all. The feeling hate does not have to come from what she became but simply the actions she did, hense they agreed to stop her by killing her
(12-21-2016, 02:11 PM)irukandji Wrote: [ -> ]Tragic? No, it was not. There was no funeral for the poor burned out trailer. The only one who the trailer would impact is Nick and Juliette deliberately burned it to get at Nick.
My meaning of tragic was not just only focused on the trailer but a number of other actions she did that was tragic which was hurtful to Nick and friends. This part also implies on the first quote answered.
(12-21-2016, 02:11 PM)irukandji Wrote: [ -> ]That's too convenient, Purity. You're letting Adalind off the hook here. How can you truly believe she's healing if she takes no responsibility for the one person she's really hurt badly?
Both parties may or may not ask for each others forgiveness, but they may learn to work together. I would believe that that will be fine for everyone around them.
As per the healing aspect, S5 was full of healing process going through. Nick needed healing and Adalind too. Both gave each other that as one family. Both of them have been hurt, and both of them have lost people who are close to them and family. As I know presently, Juliette has not lost a dear person close to her, Juliette has not lost a family member, Juliette does not understand what it means to fear and have a child because she has non. But Juliette is free to kill other people's family member or help kill, or try to kill a child and so on.
So yeh, Juliette does not understand lose of any because it trully never happened to her, so thats maybe why it was easy for her to do harm to others. So because Juliette has never felt real lose, does it justify her to do the things she did? I believe not.