06-02-2017, 04:36 PM
(This post was last modified: 06-02-2017, 05:15 PM by MarylikesGrimm.)
(06-02-2017, 03:50 PM)Hexenadler Wrote: The problem isn't how fast or slow Nick and Adalind's relationship developed. It's the fact it happened at all.OUAT
Zelena had sex with Robin pretending to Robin's wife for weeks while she had really killed Robin's wife. Zelena became pregnant and at first Robin would not leave even though his girlfriend Regina showed up and told him the truth. Polls showed how unpopular the pairing was so they broke them up. After the baby girl, named Robin too, was born in OUAT 508, dad Robin was with Regina (Zelena's sister and Evil Queen) and 13 shows later they killed dad Robin off. Zelena turned "good" and was allowed to raise her baby and then she lost her powers. The same author, Jane Espenson, who came up with the idea of the Spike attempted rape Buffy show wrote many of these Zelena shows. I looked on the OUAT wiki and I did not see anyone noticed any of the parallels. If I missed anything, please tell me.
Mary: The actor who played Spike claimed it is was suppose based on true story but the sexes are switched something like a woman in real life tried to force her x-boyfriend to have sex with her. One of the writers was suppose to be involved. I wonder if the author from above, Jane Espenson (who has worked with both G&K) , was the person that tried to force herself on her x-boyfriend?
wiki: In the DVD commentary, James Marsters said that filming the scene in which Spike attempts to rape Buffy was one of the hardest he ever had to do. He has since said that he will never do such a scene again. That scene has also generated controversy between fans and the writers,[2] but writer Jane Espenson says that moment was necessary to set up a powerful motivation for Spike's quest to gain a soul.[3] As James Marsters points out, "How do you motivate him [to] make a mistake that’s so heart-rending that he’d be willing to do that?"[4] Marsters would later say in 2012 that he understood the idea to have come from "a female writer, [who] had a situation in her life where she was and her boyfriend were breaking up and she decided if she just made love to him one more time, that they wouldn't break up. She ended up trying to force herself on him and decided to write about that. The thing is, if you flip it and make it a man forcing himself on a woman, I believe it becomes a whole different thing... I'm not really sure it expressed what the author was intending and on that score it was not successful." [5]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seeing_Red...re_Slayer)
(06-02-2017, 04:26 PM)Loona Wrote:(06-02-2017, 04:13 PM)brandon Wrote: But even if Eve felt something for Nick should be put aside and leave Nick with Adalind.
Why should Eve put it aside? Adalind was the one who have interrupt a relationship and let her child fathered while Nick was thought he was sleeping with his girlfriend at that time. So, again who should put it aside?
Eve decided to refocus her life for a purpose like many people do in later seasons. I felt that Juliette could have dump Nick when he was lying to her and gone into the peace corps. Nick was not able to protect Juliette (S1 to S3) instead she had to protect herself (S4-S5). S6 they were able to work together.
Women characters do not have to be having sex with the lead to be important to the story.