(02-17-2016, 02:42 PM)irukandji Wrote: Why would Juliette try to pull a fast one here and pretend to be someone else?
Irukandji. Do not call me Juliette! I am the all powerful Eve. All viewers of the Grimm show must bow to me. You have seen two royal princes lust over my beauty. I now have wigs! No one can refuse my every wish!
Hey Meisner, shut up or I will explode your head!
ZZZZZZZZZAP!!!! Pop. Pop. Pop.
Damn you Eve. You know that head trick does not work on me! You just killed three more HW agents. Get back in your cell! If you ever speak directly to a viewer again, you are off the show for real and for ever.
New Guy
I have been catching up on my Grimm, Question WHY DID JULIETTE GET OFF THE PLANE AND TRY TO KILL NICK? DID I MISS SOMETHING THERE? She could have gotten away free.
(02-17-2016, 02:42 PM)irukandji Wrote: Why would Juliette try to pull a fast one here and pretend to be someone else?
Irukandji. Do not call me Juliette! I am the all powerful Eve. All viewers of the Grimm show must bow to me. You have seen two royal princes lust over my beauty. I now have wigs! No one can refuse my every wish!
Hey Meisner, shut up or I will explode your head!
ZZZZZZZZZAP!!!! Pop. Pop. Pop.
Damn you Eve. You know that head trick does not work on me! You just killed three more HW agents. Get back in your cell! If you ever speak directly to a viewer again, you are off the show for real and for ever.
New Guy
I have been catching up on my Grimm, Question WHY DID JULIETTE GET OFF THE PLANE AND TRY TO KILL NICK? DID I MISS SOMETHING THERE? She could have gotten away free.
There has been debate on the why, IMO the King figured out that Nick had killed Kenneth otherwise why attack the mansion. So as payback for both the King and Juliette he sent her to finish the job kill Nick. This would kill to birds with one stone, the royals would even the score and Juliette could end her life with Nick once and for all.
(02-17-2016, 02:42 PM)irukandji Wrote: Why would Juliette try to pull a fast one here and pretend to be someone else?
Irukandji. Do not call me Juliette! I am the all powerful Eve. All viewers of the Grimm show must bow to me. You have seen two royal princes lust over my beauty. I now have wigs! No one can refuse my every wish!
Hey Meisner, shut up or I will explode your head!
ZZZZZZZZZAP!!!! Pop. Pop. Pop.
Damn you Eve. You know that head trick does not work on me! You just killed three more HW agents. Get back in your cell! If you ever speak directly to a viewer again, you are off the show for real and for ever.
New Guy
I have been catching up on my Grimm, Question WHY DID JULIETTE GET OFF THE PLANE AND TRY TO KILL NICK? DID I MISS SOMETHING THERE? She could have gotten away free.
There has been debate on the why, IMO the King figured out that Nick had killed Kenneth otherwise why attack the mansion. So as payback for both the King and Juliette he sent her to finish the job kill Nick. This would kill to birds with one stone, the royals would even the score and Juliette could end her life with Nick once and for all.
Hi Forum,
Note that Rispoli told the King that the police (Nick) captured Kenneth at the hotel (Grimm Wikia transcript):
Quote:Scene: Rispoli reports back to the King to let him know what happened to Kenneth.
Rispoli: Your Majesty.
Frederick: What happened?
Rispoli: The police were waiting for Kenneth at the hotel. He was set up by the Grimm.
Frederick: This Grimm is really becoming annoying.
Rispoli: Would you like me to go back and get Kenneth out?
Frederick: No. Let the Grimm have him. They both need a little closure. Get ready to go.
Rispoli: Yes, your Majesty. [He leaves]
Then after Nick kills Kenneth the Scoobies re-group. While Trubel, Monroe, Rosalee, Adalind, and Bud have dinner and discuss Kelly's death, Trubel asks "And Juliette. Wait, shouldn't she be here?" Trubel is told about Hexenette and Nick gives the "kill her" order.
The raid on the Royal compound has begun and the King has Hexenette carry Diana to the helicopter. Nick sees the three of them leaving for the helicopter.
Quote:Scene: Nick, Hank, Trubel, Monroe, and Wu arrive back to Bud's house.
Rosalee: They're back. [She opens the door]
Bud: What happened?
Trubel: They got away.
Bud: All of them?
Hank: They had a helicopter.
Adalind: You didn't get Diana.
Nick: I'm sorry.
Bud: What about Juliette? Was she there?
Trubel: She got away too.
Then The curious part is when Trubel is riding in Bud's truck and gets the call fro Chavez. This was before Nick kills Kenneth and the Scoobies raid the compound:
Quote:Scene: Bud and Trubel are in Bud's truck on their way to get Monroe and Rosalee.
Bud: It's really good you got here when you did.
Trubel: I guess so.
Bud: Oh, I'm serious. Nick really needs you right now. I just can't believe they killed his mother.
Trubel: It's pretty awful.
Bud: What about Josh? Is he still with us? I mean, he's not—
Trubel: He's okay. [Her phone buzzes]
Bud: Huh, must be you.
[Trubel's phone buzzes again]
Bud: Aren't you going to get it? I mean, what if it's Nick?
Trubel: [After her phone buzzes again, she answers] Nick.
Chavez: We need to talk.
Trubel: Yeah, we're on our way there. Bud's driving.
Chavez: I'll be in touch.
Trubel: No. I'll call you when we get back to his house, and Monroe and Rosalee are safe. [She hangs up]
Bud: See? It was Nick. Just making sure we're okay.
IMO, it seems Chavez and Trubel were working together to capture Hexenette for HW purposes. IMO, Hexenette was clueless about HW. IMO, Frederick intended to kill Kelly and Nick. They needed Hexenette to lure Kelly into the trap. IMO, Hexenette knew full well the entire plan and participated in order to become a "valued" hexenbiest for the royals. She expected that Kenneth would deliver on his "payback" promise and Nick would be killed. When Kenneth and the Verrat failed, Hexenette left Diana with the King on the helicopter and headed for Nick's house to kill him with her own bare (but clawed) hands.
So how did Chavez know Hexenette would return to Nick's house? Just a lucky guess? Does nick need Trubel to come to Jesus along with Juliette/Hexenette/Frankeneve/Whatever?
New Guy
(02-17-2016, 02:42 PM)irukandji Wrote: Why would Juliette try to pull a fast one here and pretend to be someone else?
Irukandji. Do not call me Juliette! I am the all powerful Eve. All viewers of the Grimm show must bow to me. You have seen two royal princes lust over my beauty. I now have wigs! No one can refuse my every wish!
Hey Meisner, shut up or I will explode your head!
ZZZZZZZZZAP!!!! Pop. Pop. Pop.
Damn you Eve. You know that head trick does not work on me! You just killed three more HW agents. Get back in your cell! If you ever speak directly to a viewer again, you are off the show for real and for ever.
New Guy
I have been catching up on my Grimm, Question WHY DID JULIETTE GET OFF THE PLANE AND TRY TO KILL NICK? DID I MISS SOMETHING THERE? She could have gotten away free.
There has been debate on the why, IMO the King figured out that Nick had killed Kenneth otherwise why attack the mansion. So as payback for both the King and Juliette he sent her to finish the job kill Nick. This would kill to birds with one stone, the royals would even the score and Juliette could end her life with Nick once and for all.
Hi Forum,
Note that Rispoli told the King that the police (Nick) captured Kenneth at the hotel (Grimm Wikia transcript):
Quote:Scene: Rispoli reports back to the King to let him know what happened to Kenneth.
Rispoli: Your Majesty.
Frederick: What happened?
Rispoli: The police were waiting for Kenneth at the hotel. He was set up by the Grimm.
Frederick: This Grimm is really becoming annoying.
Rispoli: Would you like me to go back and get Kenneth out?
Frederick: No. Let the Grimm have him. They both need a little closure. Get ready to go.
Rispoli: Yes, your Majesty. [He leaves]
Then after Nick kills Kenneth the Scoobies re-group. While Trubel, Monroe, Rosalee, Adalind, and Bud have dinner and discuss Kelly's death, Trubel asks "And Juliette. Wait, shouldn't she be here?" Trubel is told about Hexenette and Nick gives the "kill her" order.
The raid on the Royal compound has begun and the King has Hexenette carry Diana to the helicopter. Nick sees the three of them leaving for the helicopter.
Quote:Scene: Nick, Hank, Trubel, Monroe, and Wu arrive back to Bud's house.
Rosalee: They're back. [She opens the door]
Bud: What happened?
Trubel: They got away.
Bud: All of them?
Hank: They had a helicopter.
Adalind: You didn't get Diana.
Nick: I'm sorry.
Bud: What about Juliette? Was she there?
Trubel: She got away too.
Then The curious part is when Trubel is riding in Bud's truck and gets the call fro Chavez. This was before Nick kills Kenneth and the Scoobies raid the compound:
Quote:Scene: Bud and Trubel are in Bud's truck on their way to get Monroe and Rosalee.
Bud: It's really good you got here when you did.
Trubel: I guess so.
Bud: Oh, I'm serious. Nick really needs you right now. I just can't believe they killed his mother.
Trubel: It's pretty awful.
Bud: What about Josh? Is he still with us? I mean, he's not—
Trubel: He's okay. [Her phone buzzes]
Bud: Huh, must be you.
[Trubel's phone buzzes again]
Bud: Aren't you going to get it? I mean, what if it's Nick?
Trubel: [After her phone buzzes again, she answers] Nick.
Chavez: We need to talk.
Trubel: Yeah, we're on our way there. Bud's driving.
Chavez: I'll be in touch.
Trubel: No. I'll call you when we get back to his house, and Monroe and Rosalee are safe. [She hangs up]
Bud: See? It was Nick. Just making sure we're okay.
IMO, it seems Chavez and Trubel were working together to capture Hexenette for HW purposes. IMO, Hexenette was clueless about HW. IMO, Frederick intended to kill Kelly and Nick. They needed Hexenette to lure Kelly into the trap. IMO, Hexenette knew full well the entire plan and participated in order to become a "valued" hexenbiest for the royals. She expected that Kenneth would deliver on his "payback" promise and Nick would be killed. When Kenneth and the Verrat failed, Hexenette left Diana with the King on the helicopter and headed for Nick's house to kill him with her own bare (but clawed) hands.
So how did Chavez know Hexenette would return to Nick's house? Just a lucky guess? Does nick need Trubel to come to Jesus along with Juliette/Hexenette/Frankeneve/Whatever?
New Guy
I've wondered about that also and came up with this Meisner called Chavez and told her Juliette didn't got on the copter. We know later that Meisner is HW so that takes care of how Chavez knew that Juliette didn't leave but to you point on the phone call in the truck Trurbel planned to go to Nick anyway that was what she was telling Chavez, now she has the crossbow to return it to Nick and see Juliette and goes to plan B. Now I grant that is pretty lame but it does make 2 and 2 equal 4 on 3.
Meisner calling Chavez telling her Juliette did not get on the helicopter would explain why Trubel came to the house. It makes sense for Meisner to have wanted her on the helicopter since he had planned on going to HW and Chavez wanted Juliette and Diana. That makes it more then likely Juliette wanted closure with Nick. Like she said after all they have been through did he think they where going to leave it like that. There is nothing that points to Juliette returning to the house as having anything to do with the Royals. There is nothing that says her intent was to kill Nick. Frederic already said Juliette had did her part. If she intended to kill Nick, she would not have apologized for his mom. Nor would she have asked Nick to kill her.