(03-01-2016, 01:35 PM)wfmyers1207 Wrote:i agree but (you know there is always a but) does the treasure have any bearing on HW or Meisner? Will it affect the BC uprising? If BC is also knows about it will they take action? If they do know how did they learn about it as does HW have a leak that Meisner is unaware of?(03-01-2016, 12:05 PM)jsgrimm45 Wrote:(02-25-2016, 04:18 PM)tscchope Wrote: @jsgrimm I doubt Meisner believes in the treasure of the Keys. He will not appreciate Nick taking off on a mythical treasure hunt, just when things are hotting up with Black Claw. I think the only reason HW is in Portland is to try to recruit Nick. Remember what Renard said about keeping Nick and Juliette together, Renard wanted something in Nick's life that tied him to Portland? Once he joins up, I think he and HW would leave Portland.Question I don't think we know that Meisner has ever heard about the treasure. If he has does he know more than Sean? If he does would that change HW plans? Could Meisner thought that this was hearsay and now knows it isn't?
HW wanted to lure Black Claws leadership to Portland - some of it at any rate and Nick is the means to that end. I hope someone points out to Nick that the Black Forest is not in Bavaria.
Meisner hasn't convinced me he's an integral part of HW. We've been lead to believe he works with various groups. He's never said who he actually works for. We have no backstory for him. Other than his wife and child were killed by verrat working for the royals. His methods are deemed 'questionable'. He didn't elaborate on how he came to read a few books owned by Grimm. Aside from Nick, Grimm's don't really seem to share their resources with anyone.
Well JS, I don't really see how he could not know, given his involvement in the Laufer and HW. Surely these organizations would have heard rumors about it at least. Since it was so vitally important to the Royals for centuries.
As for being hearsay, it is possible that HW and the Laufer may have thought this to be nothing more than old legends. Just an old story like buried pirate treasure or something of the sort. But, now with 5 of the key maps in the hands of Nick, (And they have to know about that. I think Truble would have informed them.), maybe they start to take it more seriously?
03-02-2016, 12:07 PM
@JS. It may not mean anything. However, the two episode synopses that have so far been released for the episodes after the hidden whatever is supposed to be found, do not mention Black Claw!
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03-02-2016, 12:09 PM
Hi Forum,
Grimm Wiki indicates: Quote:Martin Meisner is a member of the Resistance and Hadrian's Wall from Berlin ...So I'll call him German. He also has shown up in Vienna and Rafz, Switzerland. He is hunted by the Verrat. He seems knowledgeable about Grimms, Wesen, Royals, etc. He claims to not know who is in charge of and who finances HW. He and Sean seem to have some history with the Resistance. So where does Meisner fit in with the keys and treasure? Is he playing dumb so Nick and Monroe gain the treasure so he can steal it from them? If Meisner steals the treasure will he use it to save civilization or will he sell it to the Royals? Nick and Monroe will take a road trip to the Black Forest for a treasure hunt. The preview shows them in a church where the priest and the alter thugs do not greet them with open arms: http://davidgiuntoli.es/?p=532 Will Meisner be lurking in the shadows? New Guy
03-02-2016, 07:22 PM
Quote:@JS. It may not mean anything. However, the two episode synopses that have so far been released for the episodes after the hidden whatever is supposed to be found, do not mention Black Claw! Dodgyafter episode 100 when they return. The is no mention of Trubel, Meisner, HW, or BC. JACQUELINE AND DAMIEN are no longer even mentioned in any credits. Not even on IMDB. They mention other guest but not them. After 101 and Capt. Renard (Sasha Roiz) considers an offer that will bring him closer to claiming his destiny. Sasha is credited not mentioned. in 101 Eve's (Bitsie Tulloch) investigation uncovers a surprising revelation. I am not going to read a lot into these credits, because the show has a habit of playing with the credits to hide things. But it sounds like the HW, BC will fade. Sean, and Eve will be stand alone. Will HW go away or be sent on a mission. Reading the synobsis I get the feeling they are going back to the old, NIck and Hank resolve wesen issues, with Monroee and Rosalee spice shop help. Wu providing his comments.
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03-03-2016, 07:26 AM
(03-02-2016, 07:22 PM)syscrash Wrote:Do you think the item found changes the scene or like you said they are playing with the credits? I lean toward a game with the credits.Quote:@JS. It may not mean anything. However, the two episode synopses that have so far been released for the episodes after the hidden whatever is supposed to be found, do not mention Black Claw! Dodgyafter episode 100 when they return. The is no mention of Trubel, Meisner, HW, or BC. JACQUELINE AND DAMIEN are no longer even mentioned in any credits. Not even on IMDB. They mention other guest but not them. After 101 and Capt. Renard (Sasha Roiz) considers an offer that will bring him closer to claiming his destiny. Sasha is credited not mentioned. in 101 Eve's (Bitsie Tulloch) investigation uncovers a surprising revelation. I am not going to read a lot into these credits, because the show has a habit of playing with the credits to hide things.
03-03-2016, 10:35 AM
(03-03-2016, 07:26 AM)jsgrimm45 Wrote:(03-02-2016, 07:22 PM)syscrash Wrote:Do you think the item found changes the scene or like you said they are playing with the credits? I lean toward a game with the credits.Quote:@JS. It may not mean anything. However, the two episode synopses that have so far been released for the episodes after the hidden whatever is supposed to be found, do not mention Black Claw! Dodgyafter episode 100 when they return. The is no mention of Trubel, Meisner, HW, or BC. JACQUELINE AND DAMIEN are no longer even mentioned in any credits. Not even on IMDB. They mention other guest but not them. After 101 and Capt. Renard (Sasha Roiz) considers an offer that will bring him closer to claiming his destiny. Sasha is credited not mentioned. in 101 Eve's (Bitsie Tulloch) investigation uncovers a surprising revelation. I am not going to read a lot into these credits, because the show has a habit of playing with the credits to hide things. Hmm, hate to sound wishy washy, but given the shows track record, it could go either way. But, I'm betting the hidden whatever is not a game changer. Given that the show has dropped the Royals for now, they have no other overlying story line to follow. But, I could be wrong.
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03-03-2016, 11:27 AM
(03-03-2016, 10:35 AM)wfmyers1207 Wrote:I agree that what is hidden is not a game changer and has been all hype. I'm thinking National Treasure not Indiana Jones.(03-03-2016, 07:26 AM)jsgrimm45 Wrote:(03-02-2016, 07:22 PM)syscrash Wrote:Do you think the item found changes the scene or like you said they are playing with the credits? I lean toward a game with the credits.Quote:@JS. It may not mean anything. However, the two episode synopses that have so far been released for the episodes after the hidden whatever is supposed to be found, do not mention Black Claw! Dodgyafter episode 100 when they return. The is no mention of Trubel, Meisner, HW, or BC. JACQUELINE AND DAMIEN are no longer even mentioned in any credits. Not even on IMDB. They mention other guest but not them. After 101 and Capt. Renard (Sasha Roiz) considers an offer that will bring him closer to claiming his destiny. Sasha is credited not mentioned. in 101 Eve's (Bitsie Tulloch) investigation uncovers a surprising revelation. I am not going to read a lot into these credits, because the show has a habit of playing with the credits to hide things.
03-03-2016, 12:12 PM
I think what they find will be used to explain why we will hear about HW and BC but they will become a reference. Example as a cop Nick is inclined to arrest when he can. As HW he can eliminate the threat. Nick actions will be justified because the perpetrator will be BC or BC related. This will eliminate this back and forth we have come to expect of we can't arrest them because we can't prove it. We will see more of the Logan solution being used. With Logan they had to create grizzly murders. Call the perpetrator BC, you can eliminate them for what they will do. Like the guy in the restaurant.
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03-21-2016, 02:24 PM
I sure looks like we are not going to see much of Meisner. he is still not mentioned in any of the credits.
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03-21-2016, 02:31 PM
(03-21-2016, 02:24 PM)syscrash Wrote: I sure looks like we are not going to see much of Meisner. he is still not mentioned in any of the credits.Do you think we are to think he out on a mission or are we to think he because of the goof with Renard killing the guy. Is he getting or giving a briefing on BC while some of the info is still current? |
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