03-20-2017, 05:22 AM
I don't get the question, Mary. I haven't watched the episode.
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03-20-2017, 05:22 AM
I don't get the question, Mary. I haven't watched the episode.
The best way to frustrate a cyberbully is to ignore him.
03-20-2017, 05:37 AM
(03-20-2017, 04:36 AM)irukandji Wrote:(03-20-2017, 02:59 AM)Grimmbiest11 Wrote:(03-20-2017, 01:06 AM)izzy Wrote:(03-20-2017, 12:29 AM)Grimmbiest11 Wrote: I get all that Izzy, I was merely saying to dispute the facts presented by the writers on record is ridiculous. It's the vague stuff open to different interpretation that we can debate on. But when something is presented as a fact, like Kelly's paternity then someone comes and says Kelly is not Nick's kid it's plain ridiculous. It's because G&K also came on record at Comic Con that Kelly is Nick's kid, unfortunately I don't have the video. Yes they said Juliette is dead but it was rebuffed when Eve came back. Well Eve herself believes Juliette is gone/does not exist anymore. G&K never specified what type of death it is, they just said she is dead, she is not coming back. Obviously they were not talking about physical death, that's the loophole. Thus far they haven't rebuffed or cast doubt on Kelly's parentage. Perhaps you guys wanted a DNA test but that's not how it was written. (03-20-2017, 05:37 AM)Grimmbiest11 Wrote: Thus far they haven't rebuffed or cast doubt on Kelly's parentage. Perhaps you guys wanted a DNA test but that's not how it was written. They didn't rebuff the absurd Juliette is dead fakery either. Instead they made her Eve so they didn't have to deal with it. While Nick assumed he was Kelly's father, there has been no definitive proof as far as the series is concerned. I think that was deliberate. If Grimm had been given a full season six or even seven, I think that would have been a storyline. Aside from that, debating Kelly's father isn't all that big of a deal. People to this day are still debating that Juliette knew and participated in Kelly's murder, even though she denied it to Nick.
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03-20-2017, 06:22 AM
It can't really be the storyline if the writers intended for Nick to be the father from the very beginning. From what's been posted on this thread, the writers purposefully wrote Claire's pregnancy into the show to create unnecessary drama.
(03-20-2017, 06:22 AM)rpmaluki Wrote: It can't really be the storyline if the writers intended for Nick to be the father from the very beginning. From what's been posted on this thread, the writers purposefully wrote Claire's pregnancy into the show to create unnecessary drama. The point is Kelly's paternity has never been established. It's only been brought up through interviews and Adalind, who told Nick he was the father. She herself completely forgot that and in fact stated she wasn't with anyone. I know they wrote Claire's pregnancy into the story but that doesn't completely make the child Nick's. Adalind could come up to Nick at any time and tell him Kelly isn't his. There's nothing in the story to definitively prove he is Kelly's father.
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(03-20-2017, 05:37 AM)Grimmbiest11 Wrote: It's because G&K also came on record at Comic Con that Kelly is Nick's kid, unfortunately I don't have the video.Hi Grimmbiest, You mention that there are various types of death. Here is what the Macmillan Dictionary says: http://www.macmillandictionary.com/us/th...s-of-death Quote:Types of death - synonyms or related wordsIMO, Nick attempted to kill her "at the hands of someone." He seemed to be choking her but she did not die from "asphyiation - to kill someone by preventing them from breathing, or to die when someone prevents you from breathing." It seems Trubel brought her "untimely" death by two crossbow bolts but Chavez and crew removed the corpse before an autopsy was performed to confirm the "catagory of death." http://www.exploreforensics.co.uk/the-fo...death.html Quote:These four categories of death are:IMO, if coroner examination had been performed (LOL, in Grimm, not a chance) the finding would categorize her death a homicide, similar to this case: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/to...-1.3739824 Gruesome! This is interesting: http://www.lordsandladies.org/crossbow.htm A crossbowman could kill a Knight in full armour Modern crossbows can be powerful: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...-home.html Quote:Darrell Farnham was found dying at his home in Aylesbury, Buckinghamshire, at around 10.45pm on Sunday after being hit with a crossbow bolt which passed straight through his body. N G
03-20-2017, 06:31 AM
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(03-20-2017, 06:28 AM)New Guy Wrote:Lol your post is funny. I can only assume they meant spiritual death, I notice you didn't touch on that one.(03-20-2017, 05:37 AM)Grimmbiest11 Wrote: It's because G&K also came on record at Comic Con that Kelly is Nick's kid, unfortunately I don't have the video.Hi Grimmbiest, (03-20-2017, 06:15 AM)irukandji Wrote:(03-20-2017, 05:37 AM)Grimmbiest11 Wrote: Thus far they haven't rebuffed or cast doubt on Kelly's parentage. Perhaps you guys wanted a DNA test but that's not how it was written. What proof do you think would suffice to establish Nick's paternity since you don't believe what the story writers themselves have said? Here's what G said after Juliette's return in S5. TVLINE | David and Jim, how long have you known you were going to bring Bitsie back? GREENWALT | A long time… But to keep my word, [Juliette] is dead. She’s coming back, but it’s not really Juliette anymore. It’s this new character, Eve, who has not been brainwashed exactly, but she’s been through some incredibly tough training where they broke her down to nothing. She’s basically a super Hexenbiest weapon for Hadrian’s Wall to fight Black Claw. She has a big scene with Nick in Episode 7, and she’s just a completely different person who doesn’t even relate to Juliette anymore — because, to her, Juliette’s dead. Later in season 6 again Eve says Juliette is gone with emphasis, she talks about Juliette as if she's someone else. But we insist they 'lied' that she's dead. Death has more than one meaning, a person can be dead inside and still physically exist. We interpreted it as physical death because she was shot with arrows and seemingly took her last gasp which could've been just a coma cause by pain and injury. While i think it's incredulous and more could've been done it is what it is, they're not gonna change the storyline because I don't agree with it. (03-20-2017, 06:31 AM)Grimmbiest11 Wrote: Lol your post is funny. I can only assume they meant spiritual death, I notice you didn't touch on that one.Hi Grimmbiest, The crossbow homicides I mention are (supposedly) real, not spiritual. Only in a fantasy like Grimm can a character be shot twice by a crossbow, be declared dead and show up in a later episode. By the way, do you know of any Grimm fairy tale where a character is killed, but comes back? Likely, Jacob and Wilhelm Grimm recognized that death is permanent and characters like the big bad wolf ended up "indeed dead." N G
03-20-2017, 07:02 AM
(03-20-2017, 06:51 AM)New Guy Wrote:(03-20-2017, 06:31 AM)Grimmbiest11 Wrote: Lol your post is funny. I can only assume they meant spiritual death, I notice you didn't touch on that one.Hi Grimmbiest, Lol N G, you're too funny. who told you she was physically dead after the arrows shot her. They just implied it, she probably lapsed in a coma due to severe injury. It happens on TV all the time, people walk unscathed from bomb explosions, no hearing problems, just a toss and and a forehead scratch. You can't apply real life to some television scenarios because it's impossible. |
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