06-23-2014, 05:24 PM
(05-28-2014, 10:54 AM)Badass Blutbad Wrote: Alright so my thoughts were flawed, my apologies.
Also thank you to Hyndara for confirming Trubel's age. My guesses were either 16 or 18 and since it seems I might not have made myself clear, the suggestion that her and Nick's ages fit as father/daughter or brother/sister was NOT a theory but a speculation and this doesn't change that fact that Nick has taken to treating her like a daughter.
If she's 21 then the age gap is not quite as unacceptable as I thought for them as romantic partners but they need to convince me that there is chemistry there before I support it(Thus I am not saying I don't or I that I do). Since she's new and thus barely been developed I'm remaining open minded to see what they do with her in the next season and if they use her upcoming screen time wisely.
(05-28-2014, 05:37 AM)Berkilak de Hautdesert Wrote: Applause to Hyndara, who presented a much better rebuttal that I could have. I would like to add one more point.
(05-27-2014, 11:43 PM)Badass Blutbad Wrote: Honestly I felt Juliette's initial anger over the incident was uncalled for considering the circumstances, not to mention her own victimizing by Adalind. When she was put in a coma and woke with no memory of Nick and the hots for Renard.
Nick had never for a second held any of that against her and had given her his full support with no expectation of getting her back let alone without ever pushing her to remember him.
She owed him for that, she should have remembered what it's like to be tricked into having feelings for or being with a partner other than your own and been more fair.
What I think you're failing to see here is that people don't react to events like this on a logical level, where they can see the facts. They react to things on an emotional level, where their reactions are based on a whole history of events they may not be aware of. You may think that that Juliette's reaction was uncalled for. In actuality, it was fairly restrained. When Juliette tells Nick that if they weren't going to a wedding she'd pull the car over right now, you could see that happening.
People don't act in a rational way to intense events. If you date someone who has been cheated on, they will invariably treat you with a degree of suspicion even when you give them no reason to. Statistically speaking, it is very likely for a couple to divorce if they lose a child to a fatal event, even if neither parent is to blame. People don't react to intense events logically, they react to them emotionally, and those emotional reactions do not have to take in the facts.
Now, you bring up the fact that Nick was very supportive of Juliette after the obsession between her and Sean, and this is true. And Juliette was very understanding with Nick when the Muse had him under her sway. But Nick had sex with Adalind. That takes it up to a whole new level. And no matter how she tries to think about it rationally, on an emotional level, she's going to feel betrayed, because Nick was engaged in an act of intimacy with someone else. As I showed above, in real life, it doesn't matter if your partner is not to blame, on a subconscious, emotional level, you're still going to blame them anyway. And the fact that this emotional trickery from the Wesen world keeps on happening again and again will compound this sense of betrayal. I think when Nick has the opportunity to regain his Grimm powers, Juliette is going to give him an ultimatum: the Wesen world or her. She's not going to let him have both.
You make a valid enough point. How having sex with someone whom he thought was Juliette doesn't seem like betrayal but at the same time the actuality for her perspective that it wasn't, alright I can see her point. It still wasn't his fault though and he was just as much a victim in this. She'd kind of treated it like he knew what he was doing. That's what I thought wasn't fair.
Unless as I suggested before she's angry at his not being able to feel a difference because the disguise should still be different to the touch. That makes sense as does her breaking point with the Wesen world always coming between them. I too would not be surprised to see her throw out an ultimatum.
Kind of a shame, at the beginning of the season she'd been a pretty badass Grimm sidekick hehe. I'm kind of missing that Juliette now. After all that time in season two when I got slightly annoyed waiting for Nick to tell her while she progressively put it together on her own as her memories returned, now it's all falling apart. That kinda sucks.
And as a sidenote I actually forgot about the muse, my initial thoughts might have been closer to yours had I remembered that this was not the first time Nick was seduced by the Wesen world.
My problem with Nick not knowing that adalind was not juliette is. If he could not tell the difference, means he must not know juiette very well. obviously adalind did not have juliette memories ( the bacon comment). So she could not know what Nick and juliette's sex life is like. He would, so how would he not know the difference. Even his comment about it being more exciting. There are things you do even when trying to spice it up that is only you. So yes that fact he did not know the difference, she has a perfect reason to be mad. Even with her memory gone she know being with Renard did not fell right.
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