(12-30-2019, 10:25 AM)N_grimm Wrote: Get real!
Maybe you should take your own advice. Your statement:
Quote:Sometimes you make statements that are just shocking.
Shocking? Really?
Quote: The original post was very focused on the actual storyline, and even asked if any members had researched what the creators said about Meisner's ghost. Then you started taking about how Meisner could be the one who needed redemption (implying, as you always do, that Renard and BC were not the real villains). When I responded to this, YOU asked for proof, which I provided. You then turn around and ask why I’m making this my personal thread.
First of all, you don't respond. You accuse. Don't believe me? Read the above. Not one thing did I say about Renard or BC being the real villains. But, because you want so very badly to read more into this post, you once again claim to know what I'm implying.
As for your proof, I didn't address it because it just didn't seem to me that you really got adequate proof. There was no indication Black Claw wanted to fulfill Hitler's objective of ethnic cleansing. And Eve's statement was merely a comparison of Hitler to Black Claw. She did not suggest that Black Claw was furthering Hitler's mission.
Regarding Trubel, who yet again fails to prove herself: Why the creative team would have her make the idiotic statement, “I thought Meisner was Renard's friend. Why would he do this?”, is beyond any comprehension.
When did she see Renard and Meisner whooping it up as friends? What makes her statement even more ridiculous is that Meisner is her superior. HW was spying on Renard. He was in charge of the HW satellite in Portland. HW was the enemy of Black Claw. Renard was part of Black Claw.
Trubel knew all of this but still opens her mouth to utter dumbness once again. There is no way Renard and Meisner could be good friends. For them to be so would no doubt raise suspicions about Meisner's involvement with Black Claw, not to mention seriously call his position at HW into question.
Finally your statement about Renard telling Meisner about the good times they had. Meisner was his bodyguard. The two of them could have good times without being drinking buddies. You neglected to mention that that statement was made to Meisner after he died, NOT while he was alive. If Renard's well-being is really the issue here, he might have said anything to get rid of the ghost.
I shouldn't even have to address this, but there was more to Izzy's post than what you think I should be responding to. If you had read the entire initial post, you also would have seen the question, " What was the real purpose of the Meisner ghost?"
Meisner was not a good man. He was terrorist, who brutalized, tortured and killed people. He died a violent death. He came back as a ghost, tasked to haunt Renard. Ghosts are usually the souls who require redeeming. There are many stories and myths to support this so don't act like it cannot be part of this thread.
Besides that, as FITC pointed out, Renard is not redeemed as a result of Meisner badgering him. Meisner could have easily been the one who was redeemed. He was free to walk away and leave Renard in peace. Ghosts don't get that option unless a higher authority deems them redeemed and thus, at peace.
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