10-20-2018, 05:49 AM
(This post was last modified: 10-20-2018, 06:15 AM by dicappatore.)
(10-19-2018, 07:39 PM)Hell Rell Wrote: I personally prefer Conan over Leno but why they replaced him is a good question. I don't know anything for sure but I remember hearing something about how Conan had five years left on his contract when he was announced as Leno's successor when he was still the host of Late Night. The fear was of him leaving when his contract was up.
I think the NBC execs thought they could have the best of both worlds by giving Conan the Tonight Show as incentive to stay and also give Leno a new show. They probably wanted to avoid a debacle, because it was at the time, similar to the one they faced when Johnny Carson retired and Leno took over the Tonight Show. David Letterman was the host of Late Night and he was thought of as the ideal successor to Carson. Instead, Leno took over and Letterman went over to CBS and became his main/direct competition. The Tonight Show was still number one but no longer as dominant as it once was.
Of course, this created another debacle. The Tonight Show was no longer as special as it once was since Leno had a show that aired an hour and a half before it. It was no longer the show you would first see late at night. I would also think that A-list celebrities would rather go on the show that aired at 10 p.m. EST instead of 11:30.
And despite what you may think about their humor, Leno's comedy was safer than Conan's. Leno's style was definitely more vanilla. The fact that Conan may appeal more to younger viewers probably worked against him when he took over the Tonight Show. For example, one of Conan's most popular characters was the masturbating bear. It was also the birthplace of Triumph and he certainly didn't play it safe. Actually, I don't ever remember seeing the masturbating bear on the Tonight Show. I guess airing an hour earlier made all the difference.
For me, personally, growing up watching Carson, he was one of a kind and un-replaceable. Leno was in no way able to fill his shoes and one of the reasons NBC lost some of its audience to Letterman. Still, if Letterman had taken over, to me, his own show proved, he would had done a lousier job that Leno. Sure, he took away some viewers from Leno but like you said, Leno was still #1.
I still favor Leno's humor over Conan but what I particular found Conan side kick obnoxious. What happened to him? Didn't he leave Conan but then I saw him back with him?
Whom I preferred was inconsequential. It was the viewing public that decided to put Leno back not me but by then the damage was done. So much for some suggesting how these media heads know what they are doing.
On a personal note. I find it very refreshing debating opinions with you, Face and a few others. I hate it when I have to debate created facts based opinions instead.
(10-19-2018, 06:53 PM)FaceInTheCrowd Wrote: My age and old knee injuries make skiing a bad idea. I'm more of a Timberline Lodge dining room and bar kind of person now.
The coldest I can recall being in the past few years was the rainy January night I was wandering back and forth across the OMSI parking lot at 2AM as an ME examining a dead body. Could have been worse, though; I wasn't the guy laying in the puddle.
That lodge always scared the crap out of me at night. It reminds me of the same lodge that was used in the movie, "The Shining". Was it? Sure looked similar to me.
I don't know how true this is, since I was never there, in the middle or the end of the winter, to see it myself. I was told by some of the locals, the upper most part of those lifts to the top are sometimes buried under the snow base at its peak snow fall.
You know you are OLD, when you see the Slide Ruler you used in college selling in an ANTIQUE SHOP!!