(10-12-2017, 10:06 PM)degrimm Wrote:(10-12-2017, 06:47 PM)dicappatore Wrote: This is an easy one. Adalind was the Hexenbiest Juliette refused to be.
Yeah you are right but adalind was a hexenbiest all along so how difficult is that to be what you have always been.
(10-12-2017, 06:05 PM)wesen Wrote: How was she another Juliette though? Juliette expected/demanded more from Nick than Adalind ever did. Juliette was well aware of how much Nick was in love with her, because she even asks him in that dialogue if HE is scared of hurting HER. Due to Juliette's personality, she is naturally more aloof, independent, confident, and analytical in her thinking. That is not a bad thing btw. Adalind presented herself as more stereotypically 'female' in her ways, her human nature is far more softer, vulnerable, and I guess you can say more trusting,'affectionate/warmer' towards Nick.
GREAT ANALYSIS- completely agree with you on that but "aloof" i might not say or put it that way.
(10-12-2017, 10:06 PM)degrimm Wrote:(10-12-2017, 06:47 PM)dicappatore Wrote: This is an easy one. Adalind was the Hexenbiest Juliette refused to be.
Yeah you are right but adalind was a hexenbiest all along so how difficult is that to be what you have always been.
(10-12-2017, 06:05 PM)wesen Wrote: How was she another Juliette though? Juliette expected/demanded more from Nick than Adalind ever did. Juliette was well aware of how much Nick was in love with her, because she even asks him in that dialogue if HE is scared of hurting HER. Due to Juliette's personality, she is naturally more aloof, independent, confident, and analytical in her thinking. That is not a bad thing btw. Adalind presented herself as more stereotypically 'female' in her ways, her human nature is far more softer, vulnerable, and I guess you can say more trusting,'affectionate/warmer' towards Nick.
GREAT ANALYSIS- completely agree with you on that but "aloof" i might not say or put it that way.
My only thought was if juliette was pregnant and a hexenbiest at same time, how would it had gone down because like @irukandji said a child was in the mix; nick hated hexenbiest all along esp when they had a child but it came to having a baby for him, he suddenly loves them and has no problem with them and juliette is now left
Nick was in love with Juliette, even as a hexenbiest he still loved her. That never changed, right up until her supposed 'death' in the season 4 finale, and even at the start of season 5. Juliette falling pregnant and being a hexenbiest at the same time would not have changed how Nick felt about her, even though he hated hexenbiests in general. Nick didn't suddenly love Adalind when she came to live with him, they both knew and understood that they needed to learn to get along with each other for Kelly's sake. If there was one person that Nick could be described as having loved immediately, it would be baby Kelly.
(10-13-2017, 04:38 AM)degrimm Wrote:(10-13-2017, 03:59 AM)rpmaluki Wrote: In Juliette's case, the problem was assuming Nick would act a certain way and taking preemptive measures based on that assumption instead of giving Nick the opportunity to prove her wrong. His love for her (or hers for him) was no longer enough to work through this latest issue. Nick said he would never hurt her but I don't think she believed him.
Adalind made the same assumption that Nick would hurt her but she hoped he wouldn't and believed him. That's it. Love was an issue for them at this stage despite Adalind's feelings for him so she couldn't rely on a pre-existing loving relationship, in fact she had an antagonistic relationship with Nick almost up to Kelly's birth that should have made her extremely nervous and trigger happy to defend herself against him had she not trusted him.
Which was what i said, juliette gave nick her life to protect in season 1, did a crappy job at doing it, she got a gun and even that didn't help. she got poisoned by adalind's cat and the thing does, was to take her to the hospital only without a thought of thinking that they will have no solution to it until monroe told him that the hospital isn't the way out. She kept on living in nick amnesia phase with nick doing nothing until things got worst and nick started venting unnecessary anger.
Adalind didn't necessarily need love, she didn't want to be alone and getting it with a baby for nick, seem like a perfect opportunity.
The problem I had with Juliette in her amnesia phase was that yes, even though she did continue living with Nick, I felt she treated him rather unkindly. I don't blame her attraction to Renard at that time because she was clearly under a spell, but if she really didn't remember Nick or wanted to have a relationship with him, she could have either left him or asked him to leave. Why stay with a guy she couldn't remember? It obviously wasn't for love, and if she was doing it for Nick's sake, why treat him coldly then?
Even in season 1, Juliette continued living with Nick even though she turned down his proposal because she felt she couldn't trust him. As for Nick being unable to protect Juliette, yes Nick wasn't able to completely protect her, but then again he was just new at being a grimm at that time. After Juliette found out about Nick being a grimm, and the dangers that came with being in a relationship with one, she had a choice once again to either leave or stay. Let's say Juliette stayed because she loved Nick too much, but in that case, she made the choice to also accept whatever risks or harm may come her way. Yet in season 4, before the hexenbiest got full control of Juliette, Juliette blamed Nick for everything that happened to her without acknowledging her own responsibility. Even as JuliEve, she still never fully took complete responsibility for her own actions, choosing to blame Juliette for her behaviour, instead of apologising.
Quote:these "aloof" word being mentioned, you guys should know exact meaning to certain words before it's used, Because juliette was a complete opposite to what tha word really meant. She was the one that made nick, monroe and rosalee more Platonically intimate. Brought them together, had dinner together, made him had more friendly relationships and also made him had less of a boring relationship compared to nick and adalind.
If someone can show or give me one exciting event or funny event or funny convo nick and adalind had when they got together, please talk
I described Juliette as aloof because she wasn't as emotionally expressive as Adalind was. Yes, she was sociable and knew how to interact with others, but it was sometimes hard to figure out her emotions based on her facial expressions. She came across as remote and rather cold, because of this lack of expressions. We see this aloof side of Juliette in extreme mode when she turns into Eve. Yes, Eve may have disconnected herself from 'Juliette', but imo this Eve persona was always just a part of Juliette, the cold, calculating part of her. The stick brought back her emotions in season 6, so she was really Juliette again, although an older, tougher, wiser Juliette.
As for Nick and Adalind interacting with each other in a funny casual manner, there was the episode where they were talking about Nick going down into the tunnels and whether it was dangerous for him to do so. Adalind was being rather playful and cheeky in that scene and Nick was laughing along with her. We also see Nick and Adalind interacting with his friends at the house warming dinner party at the loft, and also we see it in Blind Love. We also see a playful exchange between Nick and Adalind with the shaving scene with the mirror in the bathroom.