(09-17-2017, 09:27 AM)FaceInTheCrowd Wrote:Yes. One of the hexenbiest's characteristics is loyalty. It was documented in the books. I guess that only lasted as long as those they were loyal to didn’t betray them. Adalind's feelings for Renard died right after that awful scene in her mother's house when both mother and lover rejected her. She hasn't genuinely liked him since before then. She's used him to conceive Diana, wanted his protection from Nick and his mother but not for love or anything close to it.(09-17-2017, 06:55 AM)Robyn Wrote: That makes absolutely no sense to me, other than the character has always been presented as loyal to whoever she’s currently embedded with. She did it with Renard, the Royals, the Resistance, Renard again, then Nick and his friends.
Of course Adalind fell in love with Nick because he provided for and protected her.
That's what hexenbiests do. It's actually in the book. They attach themselves to royalty and serve them with great loyalty. In Adalind's case, the role of "royalty" is filled by anyone who is willing to protect and support her.
(09-17-2017, 06:55 AM)Robyn Wrote: But she remained in love with and loyal to Renard long after it was obvious he wouldn’t provide for or protect her.
When did that happen? The first time Adalind contacted Renard after he and her mother rejected her, it was to threaten his life if he didn't get Nick's key. She went back to him with baby Diana because she thought Nick would sooner kill her than shelter her and she figured she could use their daughter to gain his protection. When Renard called her on the phone in S05 to tell her he might have a way to get Diana back, she answered him with the same ton of voice she'd use to declare that she'd stepped in something smelly. The only time she was remotely agreeable toward him was in the presence of their daughter. The one exception to that was when she was trying to keep him from going into his closet where Monroe was hiding, and it took him about five seconds to ask her why she was being so nice to him.
(09-17-2017, 09:01 AM)rpmaluki Wrote: One thing that struck me between S1 and S4 (in hindsight) was how the show/story was split (although not evenly) between Nick and Adalind (Renard/Royals). We followed Nick's journey but we also followed Adalind's story. He was the hero, she was the villain. I never understood why we ever saw Adalind at all after she lost her powers, why we watched her gain her powers and then have Diana and so forth for a two-bit villainess. I don't think it was so they could bring them together as a pairing. It's as you said, she was a fascinating character and people responded to her and the writers obviously took notice.
Adalind wasn't even a full-fledged villain; she was a minion. She started out as Renard's version of Harley Quinn, then became a messenger for Eric and Viktor, characters who couldn't reasonably be shown establishing a regular presence in Portland.
The pairing of Adalind with Nick was written into the show when Claire Coffee became pregnant. That might even be why the Nick and Hexenbiest Juliette breakup arc didn't resolve into them staying together as the grimm/hexenbiest couple.
After what happened with Diana, Adalind never looked back. Between an actual enemy (Nick) and at best, an ally (Sean), Renard continued to prove why he was not trustworthy, forget being loyal to him. Nick in a similar situation, opted to protect her and his child by not separating them and actually took them under his wing, something Renard had failed to do.
It's no wonder Adalind fell for Nick.
(09-17-2017, 09:27 AM)FaceInTheCrowd Wrote:I remember how upset I got when she showed up in S2. I couldn't understand it. She was so far down the pecking order and I was asking myself why in the world I was "forced" to watch her. You get people who say that love to hate certain villainous characters, well I plainly hated her. It's only now that I finally understand the writer's fascination with someone who was technically so insignificant and I can say I am glad they kept her around.(09-17-2017, 06:55 AM)Robyn Wrote: That makes absolutely no sense to me, other than the character has always been presented as loyal to whoever she’s currently embedded with. She did it with Renard, the Royals, the Resistance, Renard again, then Nick and his friends.
Of course Adalind fell in love with Nick because he provided for and protected her.
That's what hexenbiests do. It's actually in the book. They attach themselves to royalty and serve them with great loyalty. In Adalind's case, the role of "royalty" is filled by anyone who is willing to protect and support her.
(09-17-2017, 06:55 AM)Robyn Wrote: But she remained in love with and loyal to Renard long after it was obvious he wouldn’t provide for or protect her.
When did that happen? The first time Adalind contacted Renard after he and her mother rejected her, it was to threaten his life if he didn't get Nick's key. She went back to him with baby Diana because she thought Nick would sooner kill her than shelter her and she figured she could use their daughter to gain his protection. When Renard called her on the phone in S05 to tell her he might have a way to get Diana back, she answered him with the same ton of voice she'd use to declare that she'd stepped in something smelly. The only time she was remotely agreeable toward him was in the presence of their daughter. The one exception to that was when she was trying to keep him from going into his closet where Monroe was hiding, and it took him about five seconds to ask her why she was being so nice to him.
(09-17-2017, 09:01 AM)rpmaluki Wrote: One thing that struck me between S1 and S4 (in hindsight) was how the show/story was split (although not evenly) between Nick and Adalind (Renard/Royals). We followed Nick's journey but we also followed Adalind's story. He was the hero, she was the villain. I never understood why we ever saw Adalind at all after she lost her powers, why we watched her gain her powers and then have Diana and so forth for a two-bit villainess. I don't think it was so they could bring them together as a pairing. It's as you said, she was a fascinating character and people responded to her and the writers obviously took notice.
Adalind wasn't even a full-fledged villain; she was a minion. She started out as Renard's version of Harley Quinn, then became a messenger for Eric and Viktor, characters who couldn't reasonably be shown establishing a regular presence in Portland.