Some interesting point of views here. Actually I think we mostly seem to agree on most of it. but this is almost philosophy, Grimm or cop ethics, "Good" Grimms would work undercover and not even admit to being there. " Good" Cops would turn themselves in and trust the justice system.
Anyway, I was listening to last weeks (s3 e1) Grimm Podcast, and they were discussing the bar fight and they brought up somethings interesting. Nick was violent towards Samdi but not the pilots. And when he first went into the bar he was passive. It was only till people started threatening him that he got violent. And the heightened senses, maybe that how all the Zombies are so that EVERYTHING is annoying them so they can so easily be provoked into violence. Of course that doesn't even start to explain the poor family in the house. But its something to think about.
Also, I don't know if this has been mentioned, but I'm really happy with the Juliette character. She is upset about Nick, angry at the Captain, helpful to Rosalee, and vengeful along with Monroe. I always like her character and I'm so glad she is being taken off the shelf and shined up.
I think they have some of the drug "in evidence". Didn't the medical examiner already identify it as some various forms of natural stuff. (that would be the in for Rosalee to be involved and being able to figure out the antidote. but still this all is best kept out of the harsh light in a court room.
and speaking of drugs. It occurred to Monroe that the Zombies could smoke the antidote. I hope I'm not offending anyone from Oregon when I say, that seems like a typical Portland attitude.
Anyway, I was listening to last weeks (s3 e1) Grimm Podcast, and they were discussing the bar fight and they brought up somethings interesting. Nick was violent towards Samdi but not the pilots. And when he first went into the bar he was passive. It was only till people started threatening him that he got violent. And the heightened senses, maybe that how all the Zombies are so that EVERYTHING is annoying them so they can so easily be provoked into violence. Of course that doesn't even start to explain the poor family in the house. But its something to think about.
Also, I don't know if this has been mentioned, but I'm really happy with the Juliette character. She is upset about Nick, angry at the Captain, helpful to Rosalee, and vengeful along with Monroe. I always like her character and I'm so glad she is being taken off the shelf and shined up.
(11-04-2013, 04:16 PM)droid327 Wrote:(11-04-2013, 11:04 AM)HellJacket Wrote: The problem remains that you have to prove the existence of the zombie drug, and without the Baron, that is unlikely to happen in the court of law (everything Rosalee knows about the drug is hearsay for instance, and I doubt she'd pass the legal standard for an expert witness).
Why does it have to be a Wesen-based zombie drug? Why cant they just claim its some kind of experimental psychotropic drug that was given to Nick in an extremely concentrated dose by the mysterious malefactor, Thomas Chirac?
You have the testimony of maybe ten officers that were cleaning up the "zombie farm" at the storage yard. You have the testimony of all the zombies themselves that were cured and had no memory of their actions while under its effects. You have Rosalie, who could at least give some testimony as to its general pharmacology. The existence of _a_ drug is clearly established, the problem only lies in describing the nature of the drug (magical vs pharmaceutical) - but, really, that's immaterial as far as the case against Nick...he wouldn't have to determine what the drug is, only demonstrate what it does.
Burden of proof is on the prosecution, after all, and I think all that is more than enough to establish reasonable doubt - I don't think the DA would even seek to indict in a case like this, especially not with a cop of Nick's stature, with absolutely no motive to try and argue for.
I think they have some of the drug "in evidence". Didn't the medical examiner already identify it as some various forms of natural stuff. (that would be the in for Rosalee to be involved and being able to figure out the antidote. but still this all is best kept out of the harsh light in a court room.
and speaking of drugs. It occurred to Monroe that the Zombies could smoke the antidote. I hope I'm not offending anyone from Oregon when I say, that seems like a typical Portland attitude.