(05-06-2017, 11:28 AM)Mrtrick Wrote: There was a specific threat on Kelly's head. This all started because someone tried to murder her and her husband. In his case, they succeeded. She felt that in going back, the target ends up on his back as well. And if Marie doesn't take gaurdianship, Nick would have wound up in foster care.
The specific threat on Kelly's head was of her own doing. She caused the problems, no one else did. That tells me that instead of tending to her husband and son, she saw the grimm life as more important. She owed it to her son to be a mother to him, not to dump him off on her own sister because it's inconvenient for her. That's not fair to him. You keep talking about this big threat to her and potential threat to him. The threat doesn't diminish because she dumped him on her sister. It just becomes a different type of threat. Both of them were on the run for it. I can't see why Kelly didn't face responsibilities, take her son, and raise him.
(05-06-2017, 11:28 AM)Mrtrick Wrote: Trubel is a prime example of how badly that can go.
Trubel isn't a prime example of anything because we know nothing about her.
(05-06-2017, 11:28 AM)Mrtrick Wrote: It's likely that Marie kept her Grimm work to a minimum during those six or so years she was watching over him. Once he was out of the house, she returned to her wandering lifestyle. The reason she did this, as well as the reason she and Kelly made the decision to keep the truth hidden, was because of the possibility Nick might not be a Grimm. If he could have a normal life, removed from all of this darkness, they felt it would be a lesser burden to think of his mother as dead, then to weigh him down with something that would irrevocably alter his world.
The fear that Nick might not be a grimm is not a good reason to hide the truth from him. In my opinion, this is just another example of how these two women botched things up, big time.
What I wonder is why, when things calmed down, why Kelly didn't have the courage to take Nick and raise him.
(05-06-2017, 06:49 AM)Mrtrick Wrote: All of this coin drama fell in Nick's lap. It had become a threat to him. Kelly came back because this was a burden she didn't want for him. Had she not cared, then why not just let Nick watch over them. She knew that this problem would dog him, just as it affected their family in the past. So taking up that burden, was the best thing she could do for him.
This burden she didn't want a 30 year old man to face, but when he was a child and faced many burdens, the egg donor was no where to be found. That's a real strange contradiction in a so called mother.
(05-06-2017, 06:49 AM)Mrtrick Wrote: You're complaining about the very existence of Kelly and Diana, which is completely beside the point. The fact is, they do. You don't need to like them, but you can't just ignore their presence. Whatever Diana could've done or should've done, she's still just Diana. She doesn't have to be anything else. And if you don't think she's changed things, you're crazy.
If you believe I'm crazy, what does that say about you responding to my posts?
(05-06-2017, 06:49 AM)Mrtrick Wrote: Juliette wouldn't have become a Hexenbeist without Diana's existence.
That's not a positive thing on which to blame Diana
(05-06-2017, 06:49 AM)Mrtrick Wrote: Adalind wouldn't have begun her redemptive arc without that girl.
I disagree. Adalind started on a redemptive course long before she ever got Diana back.
(05-06-2017, 06:49 AM)Mrtrick Wrote: Zerstorer would have never been defeated if she hadn't opened the portal.
Zerstorer never would have gotten through if she hadn't opened the portal in the first place.
(05-06-2017, 06:49 AM)Mrtrick Wrote: She doesn't have to be actively making choices that alter things. Diana does that simply by being. The same is true of Kelly.
You've just reduced both of them to props by this statement. What's the point of having these special children if they do...........nothing?
(05-06-2017, 06:49 AM)Mrtrick Wrote: Kelly merely being born, he has redefined Adalind and Nick's lives. And by virtue of this, everyone else's.
Let me ask this. You say Kelly was needed to redefine Nick and Adalind's lives. Are they, in your opinion, cardboard characters who are incapable of developing on their own?
(05-06-2017, 06:49 AM)Mrtrick Wrote: Again, you're deflecting the question by making it about something else. You're asking why something is, and not considering the reality of their situation. It's like if someone asked me what I wanted for dinner and my response was, "Why do I need food?"
The thread is asking what are our thoughts about Kelly Burkhard, right? Using the reality of the situation, I thought she and Marie were dead wrong in what they did to Nick. There is no way to determine the irrevocable harm they did to that boy by telling him his mother was dead. There's no way to know how much he suffered because of it. I have no understanding of why these two adults would be so cruel to a child.
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