12-13-2016, 06:34 PM
(12-13-2016, 06:01 PM)irukandji Wrote:Hi Irukandji. You maybe right. Wesen culture is far more strong than the grimm one, if grimm has one.(12-13-2016, 11:08 AM)Adriano Neres Rodrigues Wrote: I like a quote I listened same time ago: No one can give what he has not. What I mean is that Nick taught Trubel the “grimm culture” he learned himself. Nick himself had no one to teach him. Marie had time just to tell him to kill only bad wesen. But she didn’t tell him how to define who were the bad wesens. Everything else Nick learned from Monroe and from the books. That is a key point (I think) if talking about Grimm culture. The only connection Nick had to knowledge and the culture the grimms created in the past were the books and the trailer. Unfortunately there is college in the show specific for grimms.
That is what Nick gave to Trubel. What you call “his culture” (I imagine you are reffering to Nick’s culture about grimm / wesen world, am I right?) is actually what Nick gave to Trubel: Access to his books and to “his wesens” (Monroe, Rosalee, Bud, and so on).
I can’t see how Nick could offer anything more to Trubel, since it was everything he had to offer.
But think about it: Trubel created her own version of what a grimm is, manly after she went to work with HW. Trubel created her own culture.
That lead us to another question that was already made on other threads: How much of grimm attitudes are learned? How much came from genetics?
Is It only culture that plays a role here?
I found a definition of culture that I think would apply here:
Culture means a particular set of customs, morals, codes and traditions from a specific time and place.
I don't think what Nick does can be considered can be considered a culture. I don't even think the whole of group Grimms can be considered a culture. They seem to act according to will rather than following any time honored code or a set of rules.
If I recall, there was at least one episode of Grimm that dealt with teaching young people about wesen customs. So it appears that wesen do have a culture, but Grimms do not.
The Grimms apparently don't have a society for themselves responsible for spread their knowledge and to keep their way of living. Thinking about the wesen, I think we can consider this one of the responsibilities of the council.
But even the grimms having a no specific or uniform culture for themselves, there same elements that are common to the grimms we saw on the show. Their lack of value and consideration to their families is an example. Apparently they put their duty over their family. Nick puts his grimm over his duties as police officer.
This is a way of interpretation of the world (a world view) and that is what I am interested in.
I think I should have used a definition for worldview that had no culture on it. Something like:
"Worldview is just a term meaning how you interpret reality, or what you believe to be true."
Culture will certainly affects each one worldview. But ones worldview is not dependent only on culture, but on a lot of other factors.
Sorry.... I think I started with the wrong definition. But anyway, it is not out of this thread to debate the grimm culture (if it exists) since it will be part of the Grimm worldview.
Note: I hope I wasn't too confuse in this post...
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