(01-01-2017, 04:52 PM)jsgrimm45 Wrote: IMO laws in fantasy are want the writers want them to be at the time for the story needs. to get to the end point they want to tell. @New Guy link shows the Grimm tales were harsh and not PG rated.
I'll quote New Guy's post here:
Quote:The above article provides examples of Grimm's tales with themes that include "Premarital sex, Graphic violence, Child abuse, Anti-Semitism, Incest, and Wicked mothers." IMO, the frog girl's deadly touch is consistent with the writings of the Brothers Grimm. The two guys that wouldn't heed her warnings met a "grimm" end (hideous death).
So in your opinion, "laws in fantasy are want the writers want them to be at the time for the story needs."
New Guy lists as occurrences in Grimm's fairy tales are premarital sex, graphic violence, child abuse, Anti-Semitism, Incest and Wicked mothers.
How can you agree with New Guy then? These are fantasy stories. there is no premarital sex because that kind of thing doesn't exist in the world of Grimm's fairy tales. It's the same with child abuse, Anti-Semitism, and the rest. You can't even say graphic violence exists because how do you define graphic violence in a fairy tale setting? It's not defined and all you can compare it to is what we consider as graphic violence and the here and now, not in some Grimm fairytale.
I'll leave in wicked mothers because I do believe the Grimm brothers did often depict mothers as wicked.
As for the frog girl, in my opinion, there are laws in the Grimm series against murder. You can call it a fantasy, but the writers set up the parameters to show that murder is a crime. If it wasn't they wouldn't be sending Nick out to investigate the case for foul play. The girl ran away from her crime, which shows she's fully aware of what murder is and the penalty. Nick, as a cop, can arrest her for her crimes. He chose not to. I can go on and on, but this doesn't sound like a fantasy where no rules apply and anything's fair game. However, we view it the way we view it. I cannot change your definition of fantasy anymore than you can change mine. I can only point out that we can't use common terms to fairy tales where those terms do not apply.
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