12-25-2016, 04:10 PM
Quote:The question has been asked will it be Eve or Adalind that is with Nick. The comments seem to make the choice relay on what Eve or Adalind want. How about from Nicks POV. With Eve he has a great partner. With Adalind she actively pursues him. The disadvantage. Eve lacks the expression of an emotional connection. Adalind lacks the ability to work with others.One sound like he’s looking for a wife the other sounds like he’s looking for a business partner. Nick may not be able to reconcile family with Grimm responsibilities, his mother couldn’t. Love isn’t necessary for Juliette/Eve/Evette/Cindy, whatever she’s going to call herself in S6, to be a partner in Nick’s Grimm duties. But love should be an important component in Nick’s decision to settle down and raise a family, whether it’s Adalind or Juliette/insert alias here.
IMO if Nick is going to continue to protect wesen then Eve is the best choice. If Nick is going to settle down then Adalind is the best choice. Season six will show he can not do both.
That said, Kelly recognized that Nick would be shortchanged if she stayed in his life because her Grimm duties would always come first and constantly bring danger to their door. I haven’t seen much about Nick that makes me believe he’s willing to put anyone’s wellbeing above what he wants. So he may very well chose to be a Grimm and raise his son with one of these women. And the nighttime soap continues.
Quote:The other thing that makes it hard to figure out who Eve will be. At the end of Season 5 in the tunnels Eve was not a usually arrogant self. She was held going into the tunnels yet she did not insist on taking on Conrad again to get revenge for his attack on her. The Eve we had come to know would not have hide in the tunnel.But by then Eve had stopped behaving like the Eve originally introduced. She was already bringing emotion into her decision process. I don’t think it’s likely the show plans to have the original Eve in S6. G & K have said it would be Eve with feelings. And Eve with feelings isn’t actually Eve. At best it’s some blend of Eve and Juliette. At worse, it’s just Juliette returning to the forefront.
Quote:I could be very wrong about what I am going to type next, so I am open to correction but my understanding from the first season that becoming a Grimm just comes on you, and for some reason I thought it was at the time of another Grimms impeding death...hence Aunt Marie's death by disease triggered Nick's latent Grimm...[quote]
I think this is how G&K originally planned it. Then later decided to drop it and pretend Marie didn’t tell Nick she suspected he was becoming a Grimm because she was near death.
[quote]You can not sight one example of Nick showing sociopathic tendencies. You can not be a sociopath and have a group of friend that are willing to die for you.
Quote:You're kidding, right? Jim Jones had a number of friends. Some of them took the koolaid right along with him. And if they didn't, he forced them to.Jim Jones is an excellent example. Jones’ followers were dedicated to what they believed he represented. Which isn’t that different than Nick’s ‘friends’. I have always thought these characters behaved more like cult members than friends rallying for a common cause, and haven’t seen anything that makes me believe they would be so actively involved with Nick if he wasn’t a Grimm. It’s not Nick they’re drawn to, it’s the Grimm and wanting to be a part of the Grimm world that compels them to be loyal servants.
Sociopaths can be charming, charismatic and enigmatic. But let's put it this way. Can you cite a time when Nick stated these were his friends? I can't so I am asking. Can you cite a time where any of them stated they were willing to die for him? I know they went off on a few adventures where death could have occurred, but I don't consider that the same as offering their lives for his.
Quote:Meisner was part of the mission to extract pregnant Adalind from the Royals. While on the run, Diana was born. Then Meisner handed them over to Kelly for delivery to Brazil. Kelly realized the Royals were on to the extraction plan and revised it to Portland. Kelly took them to Nick's house for temporary shelter. Renard became involved and set up a plan to fool Victor into believing the Resistance did the "kidnapping." Renard did not trust the Royals and smelled a rat in the Resistance. He did trust Kelly to hide Diana. All was well until Hexenette betrayed Kelly.This implies that only Grimms know what’s best for the world. Kelly was not open to any debate that included her not taking possession of the baby. Yes, Kelly thought any time spent talking to Renard was a waste because she didn’t care what he thought and was prepared to kill him or anyone else who got in her way. Renard’s part in this was protecting himself. Kelly pointed out to him that if she didn’t go on the run with Diana, he’d have to. Renard is not going to disrupt his life for anyone, even his child.
Yes, Nick participated in the "kidnapping" but so did Meisner, the Resistance, Renard, Nick, Kelly and Monroe.
In fact, Diana's own father was all in with Kelly providing safe haven from the Royals. Yet you present it as a criminal act that Nick devised.
As I recall, Kelly went to Renard's to kill him (if need be) and take Diana back. It was Nick who got Renard to buy in. IMO the writers presented the Diana extraction as Kelly and crew protecting a child from the demented King Frederick and his Verrat thugs.
Thanks to Hexenette's betrayal of Kelly, HW lost a powerful Grimm operative and the purple eyed killer (victims: guy in Europe while in womb, Rachel Wood and Conrad Bonaparte) is living with Daddy Renard in the Portland BC mansion. I do not recall anyone killed by Diana while in Kelly's care. Just sayin'.
The reality of this fiasco is that it was ultimately a fiasco. Kelly was adamant that only she could protect Diana. She failed miserably. All the reasons Kelly gave for her taking the baby have come to fruition. The Royals launched a deadly assault on Portland and would have taken Diana if not for Resistance. Even with the Resistance’s intervention, BC took Diana, and would still have her if Diana hadn’t killed their Portland leader. In the end, Diana saved herself, not Kelly, not any Grimm. In fact, Diana saved Nick, the Grimm. So really, could Adalind & Diana had done any worse on their own?
"If my devils are to leave me, I am afraid my angels will take flight as well." Rainer Maria Rilke