(01-28-2016, 01:39 PM)Adriano Neres Rodrigues Wrote:Grant on all point but (you knew that was coming) Monroe had changed from his pasted he wanted a more controlled life. Look at his girlfriend Angeline and what happen to Hap when he lost his control. So Monroe is still wesen and doesn't regret being wesen he is just more controlled now. Look at all the types of wesen he has info on so he is up on wesen lore.(01-28-2016, 12:34 PM)jsgrimm45 Wrote:(01-28-2016, 11:48 AM)irukandji Wrote:As you would expect I don't see it this way. Monroe parents raised him likely in the woods hunting rabbits or something like that. He said their house was set on a forest. Monroe has a hidden pasted that he has hinted at but never explained. He said in the first episode at he give up the bad.(01-28-2016, 09:45 AM)jsgrimm45 Wrote: Rosalee and Monroe were raised as wesen and we know that Rosalee had problems with that in her talk with Juliette on Juliette friend. So they were wesen and understood wesen. Juliette when she became wesen she didn't have the background of or the lifetime of experience to draw from. Grimm's are not wesen but Nick has now been in the wesen world for 3 years Monroe and Rosalee have helped him in that world.
I think Nick even understands the wesen world better than Kelly did because he made the effort to make wesen friends. So yes as wesen and helping Nick they are deeper connected to Nick than Juliette, we have to consider that no wesen we seen likes hexen any better than they like Grimm's. This is a good question on why wesen fear hexenbiest almost as much as a Grimm. So that alone put Juliette in a different light that M/R.
Rosalee and Monroe were not raised as wesen. They were raised as human. They had to be in order to live alongside humans and not give themselves away as wesen. In fact, I would be inclined to say that they understood their wesen world and knew it. They just don't have the ties that their ancestors did to that world.
Rosalee parent were in with the wesen council so I see both of them understanding and living wesen. In Rosalee case that was hard for her to deal with. Rosalee told Juliette she wanted to be just normal she didn't want to be wesen for a time but came to accept it as yep I'm wesen.
And just to add some points in Monroe's case.... His dad looks like a very traditional wesen person... He didn't accept in first place Monroe's choose to not live as a wesen... He didn't accept in first place Monroe's friendship with Nick... and he didn't accept in first place Monroe's marriage with Rosalee just because they were different types of wesen.
(01-28-2016, 01:41 PM)irukandji Wrote:Living a controlled life like Monroe doesn't make him less wesen. He had the other life and knows about a lot of lore on other wesen types. That was Juliette problem she was now in the uncontrolled life of Monroe. Like I said we see this different.(01-28-2016, 12:34 PM)jsgrimm45 Wrote:(01-28-2016, 11:48 AM)irukandji Wrote:As you would expect I don't see it this way. Monroe parents raised him likely in the woods hunting rabbits or something like that. He said their house was set on a forest. Monroe has a hidden pasted that he has hinted at but never explained. He said in the first episode at he give up the bad.(01-28-2016, 09:45 AM)jsgrimm45 Wrote: Rosalee and Monroe were raised as wesen and we know that Rosalee had problems with that in her talk with Juliette on Juliette friend. So they were wesen and understood wesen. Juliette when she became wesen she didn't have the background of or the lifetime of experience to draw from. Grimm's are not wesen but Nick has now been in the wesen world for 3 years Monroe and Rosalee have helped him in that world.
I think Nick even understands the wesen world better than Kelly did because he made the effort to make wesen friends. So yes as wesen and helping Nick they are deeper connected to Nick than Juliette, we have to consider that no wesen we seen likes hexen any better than they like Grimm's. This is a good question on why wesen fear hexenbiest almost as much as a Grimm. So that alone put Juliette in a different light that M/R.
Rosalee and Monroe were not raised as wesen. They were raised as human. They had to be in order to live alongside humans and not give themselves away as wesen. In fact, I would be inclined to say that they understood their wesen world and knew it. They just don't have the ties that their ancestors did to that world.
Rosalee parent were in with the wesen council so I see both of them understanding and living wesen. In Rosalee case that was hard for her to deal with. Rosalee told Juliette she wanted to be just normal she didn't want to be wesen for a time but came to accept it as yep I'm wesen.
Does living in the woods and hunting/killing rabbits make a person a pioneer? What if one day said person simply doesn't want to go out? Will he starve? Hardly. He'll either go to the store or cook something that's on hand.
I'm not saying Monroe and Rosalee don't woge from time to time. What I am saying is just because they do, it doesn't make them all knowledgeable wesen.
Nick has no idea of what it means to woge, so as far as being an authority, that he is not. In point of fact, Juliette has the edge on him. She actually became a wesen. But again, she didn't woge 24/7 or hide out in a cave somewhere making potions and casting spells.
Wesen made the conscious decision to blend. As we all know, heritages slowly fade into the background when people blend.