(05-17-2017, 04:42 AM)irukandji Wrote:(05-16-2017, 10:12 PM)Mrtrick Wrote:(05-16-2017, 08:10 PM)irukandji Wrote:(05-16-2017, 07:12 PM)MarylikesGrimm Wrote: Adalind was being forced at that point to go along until the resistance helped her.
I believe that all of Grimm does not make any sense if the contract was not about Z. The keys predicted Diana would be in danger on 3/24/2017. If Diana did not have those powers then the keys prediction would not have happen.
Well, we all look at it differently. Getting back to the original gist of the thread, it's my opinion that Adalind should have relinquished Diana to Stefania. She was the one who went to Austria and fostered the deal in the first place.
Wow. You really feel that Adalind should have handed Diana over, just because it's proper deal making etiquette? Without any second thoughts!? That's....Well...I'm not sure what that is. It's a Baby! Not a sack of potatoes! And who cares who fostered whatever deal? There are some things that are bigger than any contract. If the supposed wronged parties feel misled, then I would politely say, they can go jump in a lake.
Is it really a question of right and wrong here or a question of a fantasy? Occasionally, when I question something Nick does wrong, like violating his law enforcement oath or murders a wesen, I'm told it's just part of his grimm legacy. I'm told this is fantasy and not reality. I've been frequently told it's not LAW and ORDER.
So the RULES that govern the real world do not apply.
I was asked:
"So she should have gone ahead and given them Diana because she was forced to sign a contract? Her word is more important than realizing what she did was wrong and taking steps to protect her child? What she did was wrong but I think her integrity would have been completely lost had she gone through with the contract."
I asked the question back, "why not"?
Adalind's a witch. Magic and potions are her legacy. She operates within a world that does not use the same rules as ours. A baby's a baby, but to her, it was also a bargaining chip. She found nothing wrong with making a deal, why should we?
In the **GRIMM** world of fantasy, she made a bargain with another witch. She bargained to get a hexenbiest spirit in exchange for handing over her baby. You may be horrified that she should give it up but the reasoning stands. **SHE** made the decision and it's a fantasy program and she did it all within the confines of the **GRIMM** world. It was okay with her. She never made the decision to keep the baby because all of the sudden she grew a conscience and realized the bargain was an evil one. She wanted the baby and the hexenbiest.
You were the one who argued with me about Nick's murderous children killing wesen because of they're sticking to ther grimm heritage, yet you're completely outraged at the same mother making a deal to obtain a hexenbiest spirit in exchange for her baby and I say she should have kept her end of the bargain?
Either these people pay homage to their heritages by doing what they do, grimm, wesen, or hexenbiest *and* this is a fantasy. Or you look at them as murderers, and apply real world laws. It cannot be both ways.
I would imagine that in the GRIMM world of fantasy, hexenbiests would have frowned on Adalind's antics. She murdered one of their own and spat on her legacy at the same time.
So what if she spat on her Hexenbeist legacy. It's a crappy legacy. And one, she herself, isn't particularly fond of. There's a difference between Nadalind's grown children going into battle and a bunch of people haggling over an infant. Unless they're going off to kill babies, which seems doubtful. And if Adalind had handed Diana over, how can anyone ever sympathize with her again? How can her redemption be possible, since this is it's inception? She would have simply remained a villain....Ah..That's the real reason you would have preferred it that way. If Adalind never keeps Diana, the chain of events leading to so many things you hate, (including Nadalind), is broken. If she makes the worst possible decision, your dream version of the show is protected in it's little bubble.