(07-09-2017, 08:18 AM)Robyn Wrote:(07-08-2017, 08:27 AM)irukandji Wrote: The thing I wanted to bring up with here is that you stated Diana came to love and trust Nick. Which I interpret as Nick must go through trials to eventually earn that trust.Diana’s parents placed themselves between her and Zerstörer, their impaled bodies laid crumpled on the ground, and yet, Diana was oblivious to anything other than Nick and the other two Grimms. So yea, I think Diana would believe the sun rose and set in Nick because G & K’s predetermined characterization process dictated she would, not because Nick sacrificed above and beyond the other characters.
I understand what you're saying. For me, because the writing was often so poor, I never really saw any deep connection forming between Diana and anyone, least of all Nick. In my opinion, Diana was given back to Renard so that Adalind would come on board with the baby and make the perfect family type picture. That appealed to the people behind Renard's campaign and apparently appealed to Diana as well. In the end Diana became a grimm to make the perfect family picture, but I think only because killing appeals to her, not because she believes there's any honor in being a grimm.
(07-09-2017, 08:18 AM)Robyn Wrote: I don’t have a problem, per say, with Meisner ‘beating up’ Juliette. The show portrayed Juliette as unhinged and incapable of taking control over her rage or the Hexenbiest influence. Meisner reacted strategically as a soldier - Juliette would be put down as one would a rabid dog or she would be cured/her rage controlled and redirected toward a positive objective. I’m not on board with the show’s portrayal of Juliette as a raging psychotic Hexenbiest, I’m only agreeing with Meisner taking control of the situation by making the hard decision that Nick couldn’t or wouldn’t.
And I would agree, except Juliette did not direct her rage at Meisner. Her rage was directed at Nick and even then, not to the terrible extent we were made to believe. If it had been she either would have seduced Nick to putty or killed him and Adalind with a single zap.
Even the writing itself seems to support the raging hexenbiest position when Adalind herself stated that there wasn't a hexenbiest who hadn't destroyed a bar here and there.
My issue with Meisner in all of this is that he didn't fit within the storyline, period. He was some external force who happened to show up later to explain Juliette's disappearance and supposed death, and then her complete change to Eve.
(07-09-2017, 08:18 AM)Robyn Wrote: I prefer Juliette having the fortitude to take control of her life and situation rather than being mentally fractured into an artificial persona, but because G & K took that route, my issue is with their complete lack of commitment to follow through.
Totally agree. This applies even to Nick and the supporting characters like Monroe and Rosalee.
(07-09-2017, 08:18 AM)Robyn Wrote: Claire Coffee said in an interview that Eve would barge into Nick & Adalind’s home and confront Nick over his commitment to family compromising his loyalty to HW. That sounds like the character introduced to Nick and viewers in The Destruction of Eve. Eve threatening Adalind if she hurt Nick, promising to do everything in her power to keep Nick’s son safe, and compromising the mission to help with Nick’s personal problems does not. And the show didn’t provide a reason for Eve’s emotional change in behavior. It simply followed the standard format of every character in the ‘good guy camp’ loves and idolizes Nick Burkhardt, the Grimm. It would have made more sense for the Eve character to confront Meisner over his feeling for Adalind jeopardizing the mission and Burkhardt’s alliance.
I never got the impression that Nick was all that much into the HW mission. And I didn't get the impression that Meisner was all bowled over with Nick once he met the grimm in the flesh.
But that aside, oddly enough, I actually thought the scene where Eve barged into the fome made some sense. Adalind had become a hexenbiest again and Eve sensed something about her that raised her suspicions.
I myself wondered if G&K were going to take that route with this supposed suppression potion, and have Adalind change drastically, but instead they caved and the whole picture of the terrified Adalind, afraid of her hexenbiest returning, never materialized into anything but about five minutes of drama.
(07-09-2017, 08:18 AM)Robyn Wrote: First, “Adalind/Meisner/Doofus” Hee-hee. Second, I absolutely believe a Meisner/Adalind/Nick triangle would have been a better storyline than Adalind’s unfounded can’t-live-without-Nick lovefest being contradicted by Nick’s baseless woe-is-me trust issues with Adalind. Actually, the naturally occurring complications between Nick, Adalind, Trubel, Meisner, and Eve-Juliette could have spilled over into every episode following The Rat King.
And it would have made for a far interesting story than Z, his staff, and what it can do for Nick.
The whole Nick/Adalind pairing suffers from the least amount of attention in my opinion. All I see here is the writers coming to a decision that they should put these two characters together and let nature take its course. Forget that both of them absolutely despised one another so by making them lovers, (and not even altering the story so they at least have some chemistry), it also makes them shallow people who are unable to hold to any type of commitment. Not to one another, but to themselves.
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