07-19-2017, 03:32 PM
(07-19-2017, 09:23 AM)Robyn Wrote:(07-19-2017, 04:02 AM)irukandji Wrote: Yes but what "horror" exactly is it that these people see? Are they psychotic and so turn that psychosis into a fairytale where they become the hero and kill indiscriminately? I just don't buy that every single wild grimm roaming the earth just "happens" upon a wesen committing such horrendous acts that he/she immediately has to step in and save the day. I even tried looking at it from a nature perspective, that these people are put upon the earth to keep wesen from overrunning it. But that doesn't seem to be the case either because wesen are fruitful and multiplying and grimms seem to be rarer and rarer. Is that because nature is slowly weeding them out? Are they like a cancer on the earth?For the average person unaware that any species such as Wesen exist, seeing one morph into even a Bud or Rosalee type of Wesen would be frightening. Seeing some of the more grotesque and reasonably assumed violent and predatory Wesen would be beyond horrific. I would liken it to being confronted by a T-Rex while going about my day. It would be as unbelievable as it was terrifying. However, Nick’s quick acceptance contradicts how I imagine the average person reacting to terrifying ‘hallucinations’ and to a relative’s unbelievable explanation and trailer loaded with equally unbelievable tools of the trade. Greenwalt and Kouf were anxious to delve into their WoW storytelling, and exploring Nick’s reluctance and gradual acceptance of this hidden reality would have slowed down the process.
(07-19-2017, 04:02 AM)irukandji Wrote: My issue from the start is a grimm was never defined satisfactorily, in my opinion. Nick started getting headaches and started seeing things. Marie shows up with the trailer, tells him to dump Juliette, and promptly dies shortly afterward, which is supposed to pave the way for him. If this is a natural thing, why doesn't Nick immediately have an instinct about what to do? Instead, he makes it up as he goes along based upon biased references and input from Monroe and Rosalee.I agree that Grimm weren’t satisfactorily defined, but all aspects of the Grimm background story were short on details, and geared to support specific storylines. Although we know Grimm once worked for the Royals, much of the how and why are left up to speculation. Learning in S5 that the Knights Templar were actually Grimm in the Royals’ employ, didn’t connect their decision about the stick to what we learned about the stick and Zerstörer in S6. But I don’t think G & K cared about any of that. G & K focused on making the finale battle big and awesome and exciting. The how, why, and where it tied in with the overall show was irrelevant. Consider Diana’s storyline. Her future was so overwhelmingly important that she had to be reared by a specific Grimm to ensure the safety of the world. In contrast, her actual story contradicted the reasoning behind her kidnapping and resulted in Kelly’s death, Juliette becoming a Hexenbiest, and Nick fathering Adalind’s second child. But again, I don’t think G & K cared about the disconnect or contradicting storylines. They aimed for action driven storylines, the rest was disposable fallout.
(07-19-2017, 08:06 AM)rpmaluki Wrote: I don't think so. Nature, in order to maintain balance typically has carnivores in smaller numbers than say herbivores. There are less lions or sharks in the wild than there are impalas or sardines. Just because those at the top of the food chain are less, doesn't make them cancers to the planet that must be wiped out. According to the premise of the show, Grimms are nature's way of maintaining the balance or else wesen would overrun the human population since they are technically higher than regular humans in terms of the hierarchical system of the three species.Looking at Grimm from an evolutionary perspective, I think rpmaluki is spot on. Nature is indifferent to a lion eating an impala, and only designs evolution to ensure the best possible survival of a species as a whole. And from that perspective, Grimm would be nature’s response to the Wesen species as a whole. Our ancestors were more akin to the show’s more violent, self-interested Wesen 300,000 years ago, instinctively driven to survive without thought of consequence to anyone else. And that could be an angle we’re not looking at. In the Grimm world there are Wesen who didn’t or couldn’t revolutionize along side today’s mainstream Wesen society.
Just my two cents. In season six we get a prospective of what the world would be like if Wesen ran rampant, as per the writers. Always voge and not a real friendly bunch, at least for the Blutbad
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