04-09-2017, 03:09 PM
(04-09-2017, 01:23 PM)irukandji Wrote: I was just looking at a way in which she could be valuable to them. If this is the case, then what was the point of being with people who didn't like her and didn't want here there at all?If you’re looking for rationale in Adalind’s thought process or actions - good luck. Who knows why she ran to the same caliber of people when Renard and her mother cast her aside for losing the fight with Nick. That’s the only kind of people she knew? Realistically, why would anyone with a lick of sense agree to be the front man, taking all the risk while Renard hid behind his trusted-captain façade, and without any leverage to take him down if he betrayed her?
(04-09-2017, 01:23 PM)irukandji Wrote: For Adalind to ask about Lisbon and then further the question by asking if Trubel was paid indicates an interest that goes outside the bounds of small talk. Otherwise there's no reason to bring it up. I got the impression Adalind was affected by the talk of Lisbon as in, she wished she could go there.Adalind didn’t ask about Lisbon. Trubel was telling her and Nick about HW and her missions, not carrying on a casual conversation. Adalind didn’t react with intrigue, but with surprise about what Trubel had been doing, and concern that HW knew about her, Nick, and Kelly.
(04-09-2017, 01:23 PM)irukandji Wrote: Adalind never once expressed any kind of anxiety over going to Nick for help and protection. She went, she asked, he took her in. Why should she be surprised and relieved? If he took her in, the scoobies would no doubt follow his word. And beside that, she had something to offer in return, the suppression potion.Adalind went to Nick as a last resort, and yes, she went with an offer that would hopefully buy his help and protection. In S5, she was relieved, and surprised, when Nick included her in finding a safer place for them to live. In S4, she assumed the suppressant had worked on Juliette and Nick had come to Bud’s to kill her.
(04-09-2017, 01:23 PM)irukandji Wrote: Was she? I remember about 30 seconds of maybe some terror and after that, nothing. Perhaps the terror was more for Rosalee's benefit, maybe she was scared, I don't know. I only know we never saw any more evidence of terror after that.Adalind was upset in the Spice shop and still upset when alone in the loft. There was no one at the loft to fake her worry to.
(04-09-2017, 01:23 PM)irukandji Wrote: She could have. But then why not just tell Nick? According to your post, Adalind was surprised and relieved at the help they gave her. I assume that includes Nick since she went to him first. If she had no fear of reprisal and was really struggling to become an honest woman, why not just be honest with Nick?Probably for the same reason Juliette put off telling Nick. Nick was in love with Juliette, so if she was afraid Nick would instinctively kill her, why would Adalind think Nick would be more lenient with her?
Adalind could have only killed Rosalee to cover up her Hexenbiest returning if she was the character you’re depicting her to be in S5 - conniving and manipulative, and will betray Nick at the first opportunity. So I asked why wouldn’t Adalind have simply killed Rosalee? So why do you think Adalind didn’t kill Rosalee so she could keep scamming Nick?
(04-09-2017, 01:23 PM)irukandji Wrote: This was just speculation that if the series continued, I have no doubt Adalind would have betrayed Nick. I just don't see her resigning herself to a life of the fome tidying up after Nick. She's much too complex a character to be reduced to a domestic partner. I like the fact that she made a stand to be a better mother to her children, and it seemed at first that's what she wanted to do.Any scenario or characterization not established on the show is speculation. I don’t agree with the creative team’s direction with Adalind - hopelessly in love and subservient to Nick, and accepting so little in return. But I don’t think the show even hinted at the characterization you’re suggesting. Bonaparte asked Adalind for Nick’s location repeatedly, and each time she refused. When he told her he’d eventually find Nick, Adalind responded that he might but she wouldn’t help him because Nick was good to her when he didn’t have to be. That’s not the response of someone scheming against Nick and looking to betray him at the first opportunity. If Adalind wanted to be rid of Nick, BC was her opportunity. She turned them down because she hoped to take her children and return to Nick - even if it meant living in a two room loft over a paint factory. The show having another season didn’t restrict them to keeping Adalind with Nick. She was with Nick because that’s the direction the creative team chose for the characters.
But the last episode indicated to me that Adalind really had no intention of doing the best she could for her children. I don't agree with encouraging them to become wesen killers or adopt the grimm lifestyle.
I have reservations about Adalind’s decisions, or lack of, for the children - such as taking them to some cabin in the woods instead of getting the heck out of Portland. But Renard was just as committed to taking a stand in Portland instead of fleeing for the sake of the children. That the children adopted the Grimm lifestyle is a choice the characters made based on their lifestyle and experiences. Ours will differ because we can’t relate to those lifestyles and experiences, but that doesn’t make their choices wrong for them.
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