Considering that what magic we saw in Grimm was pretty much exclusive to hexenbiests, I would guess that in the grimmiverse, nothing that Nick could have learned from a non-hexenbiest would have been real.
(01-30-2018, 06:53 AM)dicappatore Wrote: Because there is no such evidence. Even Kenneth was given a fair chance. He was brought to an empty warehouse. His handcuffs removed. He had the chance to run away or drop on his knees and ask for forgiveness, even if he only left the mansion to try to kill Nick, after he just got done killing his mom.
Instead, his Royal smugness started to ridicule Nick, then proceeded to attack him. Nick responded by protecting himself and proceeded to kill him. Was that unfair? I say no. That's the best I can come up with. If some viewers were offended? BOO-HOO. Go cry me a flocking river, then drown in it!
Let's not get carried away here! Nick clearly setup a death match between he and Kenneth. That was not a case of Nick protecting himself.
I think Nick is far from being corrupt and there's a lot of hyperbole being used in an attempt to paint him in a bad light but that fight definitely was not on the up and up.
HR, given the BS being posted on this forum by a select few. How they twist, deny and change facts, my stretch of the facts are amateurish at best compared to, well I think you know who.
Let me ask you this, when Nick shut that British accent up, I know Henry liked it, with that spike in his neck, did you scream out "Arrest that corrupted cop" or did you say, "DIE BITCH"?
Hi Dicappatore, I am going to have to agree with ,HR, killing Kenneth was the most corrupt thing Nick ever did, but to those saying the way Nick killed Kenneth is cowardly they are wrong because Nick give kenneth a fair figth and only used his blade against Kenneth when he had already defeated Kenneth. Nick totally dominated kenneth in that fight from start to finish, by the way I loved seeing that Royal bitches mouth being shut with a giant blade it was about time someone shut him up. Had it of been me in Nicks place that annoying little posh bitch with his annoying little posh accent would have suffered a far more grisly and slow death, Nick once again proves he’s a better man than me. The guy put Nick moms head in a box and shagged his ex girlfriend in Nicks own bed and murderd Nicks nieghbours, legally speaking Nick as a cop was very wrong for what he did to Kenneth but from the point of view of a grieving son and scornfull ex, he far was too soft on Kenneth after what Kenneth did with Juliette and to Kelly.
The point I was trying to make was that I wasn't oblivious to that scene, since I am the one to give up the evidence of that corrupt action by Nick. The better question is, where is all this evidence of Nick killing Wesen indiscriminately as some have claimed. Have they dare to reply with that evidence? I don't see any.
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I didn't see Nick killing wesen indiscriminately either. Some of the phrasing used makes it seems like he was hunting wesen out of boredom instead of encountering them during his investigations.
For the most part, Nick has been described as reactive rather than proactive so that doesn't line up with him just setting out to kill Wesen. He didn't even face Zerstorer until he absolutely had to do it.
(01-30-2018, 11:00 PM)FaceInTheCrowd Wrote: Considering that what magic we saw in Grimm was pretty much exclusive to hexenbiests, I would guess that in the grimmiverse, nothing that Nick could have learned from a non-hexenbiest would have been real.
Nick was shacked up with a hexenbiest. If he were really and truly interested in expanding his knowledge, he could have just asked Adalind about what she knew. There's nothing I saw in the series that prevented Nick from practicing magic. Rosalee did via the use of potions.
We don't know what Adalind knew about non-hexenbiests. Her kind may have kept diaries just like the grimms.
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This is one of those cases where the only potential evidence is what we didn't see, which is anyone other than a hexenbiest performing magic that didn't at least involve one (or parts of one). The series created an in-universe version of just about every mythological being or supernatural phenomenon you can think of, and the only practitioners of magic shown were hexenbiests. But that's by no means definitive proof.
(01-31-2018, 01:08 PM)FaceInTheCrowd Wrote: This is one of those cases where the only potential evidence is what we didn't see, which is anyone other than a hexenbiest performing magic that didn't at least involve one (or parts of one). The series created an in-universe version of just about every mythological being or supernatural phenomenon you can think of, and the only practitioners of magic shown were hexenbiests. But that's by no means definitive proof.
That's fine if you see it that way. We can go back and forth and will never come to an agreement. I really posed thoughts in the hopes that Daniel will come back and enlighten me on where Nick would go to research magic.
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(01-31-2018, 01:08 PM)FaceInTheCrowd Wrote: This is one of those cases where the only potential evidence is what we didn't see, which is anyone other than a hexenbiest performing magic that didn't at least involve one (or parts of one). The series created an in-universe version of just about every mythological being or supernatural phenomenon you can think of, and the only practitioners of magic shown were hexenbiests. But that's by no means definitive proof.
That's fine if you see it that way. We can go back and forth and will never come to an agreement. I really posed thoughts in the hopes that Daniel will come back and enlighten me on where Nick would go to research magic.
Rosalee had information on dealing with some spells, such as how to reverse Hank's spell by"killing" the hex. There was a lot she did not know, such as how to regrimm Nick.
(01-31-2018, 01:08 PM)FaceInTheCrowd Wrote: This is one of those cases where the only potential evidence is what we didn't see, which is anyone other than a hexenbiest performing magic that didn't at least involve one (or parts of one). The series created an in-universe version of just about every mythological being or supernatural phenomenon you can think of, and the only practitioners of magic shown were hexenbiests. But that's by no means definitive proof.
That's fine if you see it that way. We can go back and forth and will never come to an agreement. I really posed thoughts in the hopes that Daniel will come back and enlighten me on where Nick would go to research magic.
Rosalee had information on dealing with some spells, such as how to reverse Hank's spell by"killing" the hex. There was a lot she did not know, such as how to regrimm Nick.
She didn't know a lot, but we are talking about Nick. Could Nick perform magic or is such a thing out of his realm?
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02-02-2018, 09:06 AM (This post was last modified: 02-02-2018, 09:22 AM by jsgrimm45.)
Haven't read all the posts I may be covering somethings already said so sorry.. We have to take Conrad out of the picture because he was not a hexenbiest and we only have him to compare with Nick.
On the Hexenbiest only idea we never seen a hexenbiest able to use their Telekinesis power on a Grimm it was always hand to hand. Now someone will say Juliette did at the house but watch the scenes and you will see that it is hands on. Next someone will say Juliette used Telekinesis to casuse Nick to shoot Monroe, but IMO she was in control of the gun not Nick, now granted Nick wasn't able to stop the gun, so I would add that a Hexenbiest could control objects around a Grimm but not the Grimm.
Now Henrietta did control Nick with Telekinesis but with a spell of love IMO.
If we look Telekinesis had a weight limit Juliette move the object to drop on Adalind but she didn't float it out first.