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Right now as it looks..Nick has several charges against him that can not be swept under the rug
#1 He assaulted his Capt/Mayor to be both can get several years in prison
#2 the place he was transfer all the police officers are dead...I bet Nick's gun is still there after he try to help EVE and he has no alibi

Sean is not connected to anything. .BC kept him out of the transference of Nick, He is going to be mayor he has a instant family also he has witnesses that Nick assaulted him infront of the entire police department

The only murders he would not be responsible is in his own precinct..( I assume they were from the North precinct )
as a matter of fact both Wu and Hank may be in trouble as well if they link both murders at thiet station to the ones at North..where they could have gotten Nick out ending in the bloodbath......not looking good for the scoobies
not thinking of HW or Nick's place because it's hidden and no one know where they are except the scoobies, Sean, Adalind and Diana every else's is dead...
whether Nick wants to are not wil have to enter BC world to get out of the mess BC started and to do that he has to work with Sean...or live on the run or hide in the tunnels for the rest of his life.
Nick could tell half the truth.Sean who lied about his campaign.regarding Wu, perhaps nothing incriminating.was the changed,and if there are hairs could not get a proper examination.as happened with Big Foot and Juliette.It could be that Sean wants to make a conference with Nick before reporters.I think Nick would not say anything about the tunnel,lying that his group is elsewhere.and less on the stick
Actually it would all come down on Sean and not Nick. They would ask Sean why did he raid Nick's house, in which he would need to viable answer. Not to mention it was Sean who killed Bonoparte and finger prints are on the sword so that question would come up. To top it off the evidence that shows Mayor dixion being assassinated is still within Team Grimm's possession. Thus the Question the authorities would be asking is did Sean know and was he involved.

So there is just as many questions for Sean as for Nick. Except Nick has witnesses that are alive while Sean has none. They could easily pin the whole thing on Sean. Not to mention the fact that the north police framed Hank for a murder then murdered his neighbor. This is something that is going to be handled by the FBI which seems to be more HW than BC. Or internal affairs. Both would come down on suspension.
(06-11-2016, 09:27 AM)Nicholas White Wrote: [ -> ]Actually it would all come down on Sean and not Nick. They would ask Sean why did he raid Nick's house, in which he would need to viable answer. Not to mention it was Sean who killed Bonoparte and finger prints are on the sword so that question would come up. To top it off the evidence that shows Mayor dixion being assassinated is still within Team Grimm's possession. Thus the Question the authorities would be asking is did Sean know and was he involved.

So there is just as many questions for Sean as for Nick. Except Nick has witnesses that are alive while Sean has none. They could easily pin the whole thing on Sean. Not to mention the fact that the north police framed Hank for a murder then murdered his neighbor. This is something that is going to be handled by the FBI which seems to be more HW than BC. Or internal affairs. Both would come down on suspension.

Nick's house was so hidden even Renard did not know where it was......Nick would be stupid to tell cops about what happened in his house in fear of them finding the tunnels( besides he is an escape prisoner) so even if the cops came to Nick's house and found all the dead cops and some swat team personal.it can be easily explained that the dead cops where hunting down the fugitive and was killed by Nick all Renard has to do say it was self defense killing Bonaparte , because he was in with Nick to wipe out the North precinct in a terrorist attack. Nick does not have any witnesses they all in the tunnel and who are they going to believe a station full of dead cops and a prisoner no where to be seen..a prisoner who earlier had attacked a mayor elect...who will the people believe. Sean /self defense or a escaped prisoner on the run from a police station full of dead cops? nope Nick home will not be mention in any report
No doubt I would see it different. Sean now may I did say may have two enemies Royals and BC so he stills needs a Grimm. Sean will drop the charges against Nick and they will have an uneasy truce. Sean knows that if he does anything he will have Adalind, Eve, Trubel, Hank, Wu, and Monroe to deal with he not a fool now Nick holds all the card HW is gone BC in gone in Portland but Nick still has the scoobies and they are intact.
(06-11-2016, 09:46 AM)Kathryn Wooten Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-11-2016, 09:27 AM)Nicholas White Wrote: [ -> ]Actually it would all come down on Sean and not Nick. They would ask Sean why did he raid Nick's house, in which he would need to viable answer. Not to mention it was Sean who killed Bonoparte and finger prints are on the sword so that question would come up. To top it off the evidence that shows Mayor dixion being assassinated is still within Team Grimm's possession. Thus the Question the authorities would be asking is did Sean know and was he involved.

So there is just as many questions for Sean as for Nick. Except Nick has witnesses that are alive while Sean has none. They could easily pin the whole thing on Sean. Not to mention the fact that the north police framed Hank for a murder then murdered his neighbor. This is something that is going to be handled by the FBI which seems to be more HW than BC. Or internal affairs. Both would come down on suspension.

Nick's house was so hidden even Renard did not know where it was......Nick would be stupid to tell cops about what happened in his house in fear of them finding the tunnels( besides he is an escape prisoner) so even if the cops came to Nick's house and found all the dead cops and some swat team personal.it can be easily explained that the dead cops where hunting down the fugitive and was killed by Nick all Renard has to do say it was self defense killing Bonaparte , because he was in with Nick to wipe out the North precinct in a terrorist attack. Nick does not have any witnesses they all in the tunnel and who are they going to believe a station full of dead cops and a prisoner no where to be seen..a prisoner who earlier had attacked a mayor elect...who will the people believe. Sean /self defense or a escaped prisoner on the run from a police station full of dead cops? nope Nick home will not be mention in any report

The assault on Nick wasn't official and they never booked Nick in the North. He was never officially booked at either station. So internal affairs and the FBI is going to ask Renard why he didn't follow procedure. Then they are going to ask why the camera's weren't working in the North precinct because if they were then more questions are going to arise. Like a shit ton of questions for both parties.

This will be investigated. Questions and witnesses are going to come forward. If anything looks suspicious on Renards part, like not following procedure, than they will investigate Renard. Then they would start taking a look at Dixion assassination and then a look at oh girls murder in which Renard was the last person to see her.
(06-11-2016, 10:26 AM)jsgrimm45 Wrote: [ -> ]No doubt I would see it different. Sean now may I did say may have two enemies Royals and BC so he stills needs a Grimm. Sean will drop the charges against Nick and they will have an uneasy truce. Sean knows that if he does anything he will have Adalind, Eve, Trubel, Hank, Wu, and Monroe to deal with he not a fool now Nick holds all the card HW is gone BC in gone in Portland but Nick still has the scoobies and they are intact.

Sean has several more BC members including Lucien at his disposal..so Sean is not totally on his own on HW board of BC members their are 5 members ( 3 men and 2 woman) which includes Lucien who are located in Seattle Wash not Portland.....
Sean needs Nick, big time. Let's assume that the cops at North turned off the cameras - "darn things keep going off all the time" - so there would be no record of their heart to heart with Nick, no proof when Nick got there, when he left and who was shooting up the place. Nick was using sone else's gun, which he brought to the from, his was at his station. Those bodies will disappear and all will be okay. Sean now has a Grimm, 2 hexs, and the gang with bones to pick with him. He is about to spend most of the next year dealing with the FBI and Homeland Security going through Portland with a fine tooth comb. Sean needs Nick help to keep the gang quite, the gals under control and the Feds in the dark, as well as someone to control BC. A cop can leave town, no one would care, the mayor vanishes its all over the cable.
(06-11-2016, 07:46 PM)eric Wrote: [ -> ]Sean needs Nick, big time. Let's assume that the cops at North turned off the cameras - "darn things keep going off all the time" - so there would be no record of their heart to heart with Nick, no proof when Nick got there, when he left and who was shooting up the place. Nick was using sone else's gun, which he brought to the from, his was at his station. Those bodies will disappear and all will be okay. Sean now has a Grimm, 2 hexs, and the gang with bones to pick with him. He is about to spend most of the next year dealing with the FBI and Homeland Security going through Portland with a fine tooth comb. Sean needs Nick help to keep the gang quite, the gals under control and the Feds in the dark, as well as someone to control BC. A cop can leave town, no one would care, the mayor vanishes its all over the cable.

we assuming that Nick is a free man he is not he was arrested for an assault of public official and still Capt of the police department ..there are papers having Nick transferred to the North precinct...but he is not there except dead cops(and just moments) before he assaulted Renard...it will look like he shot up the place to get back to Renard..that would be the assumption there will be no proof to show otherwise. Especially if the transfer papers has the names of the police officers on them and I assume, they would ...are the cops that are dead at the North Precinct (which means Nick made it to the station) and the cops who transferred him are dead which Makes Nick a highly suspect for the crime and he is on the run........Nope Nick needs Sean more than Sean needs him.. ...HW is cleared out as Trubel said there ..is no one to fight BC except them....Sean has the means toclean up a entire police station plus clean the walls repair damages.....it would not be HW...Sean has still 5 member left 3 men and 2 women one of them Lucien who are stationed in Seattle Wshington and a hairs jump to Portland...So Sean still has BC members at his disposal on the outside. I do not think G&K will spend the rest of Season 6 dealing with homeland security ..Nick's gang is in the tunnels. Sean's members are on the out side..one call everything is cleaned up and new wesen cops taken the place of the dead ones... with the Ring playing a role in the season...I think Sean makes Nick help him to get him off the fugitive list and back on the force..... a un easy alliance
(06-12-2016, 04:11 AM)Kathryn Wooten Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-11-2016, 07:46 PM)eric Wrote: [ -> ]Sean needs Nick, big time. Let's assume that the cops at North turned off the cameras - "darn things keep going off all the time" - so there would be no record of their heart to heart with Nick, no proof when Nick got there, when he left and who was shooting up the place. Nick was using sone else's gun, which he brought to the from, his was at his station. Those bodies will disappear and all will be okay. Sean now has a Grimm, 2 hexs, and the gang with bones to pick with him. He is about to spend most of the next year dealing with the FBI and Homeland Security going through Portland with a fine tooth comb. Sean needs Nick help to keep the gang quite, the gals under control and the Feds in the dark, as well as someone to control BC. A cop can leave town, no one would care, the mayor vanishes its all over the cable.

we assuming that Nick is a free man he is not he was arrested for an assault of public official and still Capt of the police department ..there are papers having Nick transferred to the North precinct...but he is not there except dead cops(and just moments) before he assaulted Renard...it will look like he shot up the place to get back to Renard..that would be the assumption there will be no proof to show otherwise. Especially if the transfer papers has the names of the police officers names on them and I assume they would are the cops that are dead at the North Precinct (which mean Nick made it to the station) and the cops who transferred him are dead.......Nope Nick needs Sean more than Sean needs him.. There for a fugitive ...HW is cleared out as Trubel said there is no one to fight BC except them....Sean would be the one who would clean up a entire police station plus clean the walls repair damages.....it would not be HW...Sean has still 5 member left 3 men and 2 women one of them Lucien who are stationed in Seattle Wshington and a hairs jump to Portland...So Sean still has BC members at his disposal on the outside. I do not think G&K will spend the rest of Season 6 dealing with homeland security ..Nick's gang is in the tunnels. Sean's members are on the out side..one call everything is cleaned up and new wesen cops taken the place of the dead ones... with the Ring playing a role in the season...I think Sean makes Nick help him to get him off the fugitive list and back on the force..... a un easy alliance

Nick does not really need Sean's help, He has already won the fight by getting the stick first, with that stick, he is immortal, no one in the show including Diana can kill him when he has that stick.

Sean would already be dead without Bonaparte and Diana, He is toast for Grimm's, BC is destructed, I'm pretty sure those 5 members do not have a chance to fight with a Grimm. On those Wesen cops, they will be cleaned by Normal ones, I'm pretty sure they have evidence on the assault.

So Renard simply lost, He has a chance to get with Grimm or he will die.
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