(12-01-2016, 03:39 PM)syscrash Wrote: New Guy if the transcripts you posted confirm she died. How do you explain the conversation Nick had with Trubel who was the only one thereIn the scene where Trubel shot Hexenette, there were four in the room, Nick, Juliette, Trubel and Kelly's decapitated head. Can we all agree that Kelly was dead?
Nick: She's either dead, or she isn't!
Trubel: All I know is that she was alive when Chavez took her, but... I didn't know if she was gonna survive
As other have explained Trubel was given the mission to make Juliette appear dead.
this conversation
Trubel: Chavez knew that Juliette was a Hexenbiest and wanted to use her.
Nick: For what?
Trubel: A weapon. That's why they took her.
would explain why they would want Juliette to disappear so no one would look for her.
Isn't it more likely that they faked Juliette's death then performed some kind of resurrection of the dead.
Also consider the only resurrection seen was that of Sean. That one required his mom to give up part of herself. What hexenbiest would do that for Juliette. The idea that Juliette actually died makes it much more complicated then just admitting they faked her death.
Nick held her in his arms after she was shot and reported her as dead to Hank, Monroe and Rosalee. Trubel fired the shots, but did not see her up close. Chavez and the HW agents were outside. Trubel said "alive when they (HW?) took her (When and Where?)." She knew HW had her in the compound in a cell and Meisner had beaten her into submission. I believe Trubel was not present when HW took the corpse to the compound and does not know how they revived her. She was not even in Portland, but out of the country on "missions."
http://grimm.wikia.com/wiki/Theresa_Rubel
Here is the Grimm.Wikia summary:
Quote:Taken Away and Secrets RevealedNote the wording of "After sleeping for 25 hours, she revealed to Nick and Adalind that she was taken away along with Juliette's body and then sent away on missions." They refer to Juliette's body (corpse), not Juliette as a person.
Right after shooting Juliette, agents from Hadrian's Wall rushed into the house and took her (Trubel) while she watched them drug Nick. ("The Grimm Identity") She was taken to an unknown location and kept in a cell. ("Lost Boys") Despite being very beat up, she was able to drive a motorcycle to Nick and Adalind's new loft where she crashed it. Nick came outside to investigate, and she stumbled over to him and collapsed into his arms. ("Maiden Quest") Concerned about her condition, Nick immediately took her to the hospital, introducing her as an undercover police officer to avoid attracting unwanted attention. ("The Rat King")
After sleeping for 25 hours, she revealed to Nick and Adalind that she was taken away along with Juliette's body and then sent away on missions. She told them that she had been working for Hadrian's Wall since they caught up to her in Philadelphia when she had taken Josh home. ("The Grimm Who Stole Christmas") She explained that they had been sending her around the world on missions and that there were sections of Hadrian's Wall all over the world. When Adalind asked if she was being paid, Trubel told them that she got paid in cash. Nick asked her about the motorcycle and Trubel told him that it was hers. She then showed Nick the special features that her motorcycle was equipped with. Later, she talked with Adalind and confessed that she went back for Juliette the night she shot her, ("Cry Havoc") and Adalind told her she should probably tell Nick at some point. ("Wesen Nacht")
When Nick encountered “Juliette” after being ambushed by Black Claw, Trubel told him that Chavez wanted to use Juliette as a weapon for Hadrian's Wall. Nick told her he wanted to see Juliette, so Trubel confronted Meisner at the HW headquarters, angry, and wanting to see "Juliette." The two briefly fought, before Meisner put her in a painful armlock, telling her they did what they had to. She returned to Nick’s loft the following morning, saying that he would be able to see "Juliette" that day. Once Nick returned from meeting her, he told Adalind and Trubel that he hadn't met Juliette; rather, he had met Eve. When Adalind asked who Eve was, Nick replied he had no idea. ("Eve of Destruction")
IMO, Trubel knows she shot Hexenette and that she collapsed. She saw HW drug Nick and carry away Hexenette's corpse. HW also captured Trubel and immediately sent her away. Trubel was never close enough to Hexenette after the shooting to know if she survived. She seems to have little if any knowledge of what HW did with Hexenette's corpse.
Nick claimed she died in his arms. That is also what G&K have said. I have not seen any interview with G&K saying Hexenette's death was faked to make it "appear" she died.
When you find such an interview with G&K, please post a link on the Forum so we can all read it.
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