Not every couple responds the same in terms of showing commitment. Some want the physical gestures of flowers, dinner dates by candle light while others don't. Nick and Adalind haven't settled long enough to work that out for themselves. They've gone from crisis to crisis which has always been the focal point on this show. What happened with Nick and Juliette was so that we could watch some wesen or Adalind in particular bulldoze in some form or another. Nick and Juliette's life had the appearance of normalcy that the writers pointedly destroyed from the beginning. Most couples do what Nick and Juliette did but without the danger attached so they get to enjoy each other fully without drama. That was never the case on the show. And some couples do things backwards like Nick and Adalind but also without the drama. The first is typical and the second, atypical and both are tropes depending on what the writers want to convey. Both can be very successful just as both are susceptible to failure.
03-03-2017, 11:27 PM
(03-03-2017, 11:08 PM)syscrash Wrote:Quote:When I had young children, I could not find anyone to watch my children. Both of my kids have ADHD and until my son was 11, my husband and I could not date due to babysitting issue. Once I become a mother I did not get flowers anymore and my husband bought me household goods for presents. Yes, my husband loves me.I have heard of and know couples like that. It does not always involve having children. Couples who have very intense and involved carriers have trouble finding time for each other. They one thing I have found. Of the ones I know one by one the result is divorce of find someone else the pays attention to them. I do not know of anyone one in a new relationship that suffers from that problem. I am married 28 years. I have thought if Nick and Adalind dated it would have helped a lot in season 5. G&K have created a crisis reality for Adalind and Nick with little money so that kind of romance is not there. Nick smiles when he sees Adalind with the kids so there is some happiness.
Women characters do not have to be having sex with the lead to be important to the story.
03-04-2017, 12:27 AM
I agree. I think it's a very mature relationship. Their emotions are steady towards each other. It's the trust that they worked on, and they have it nailed.
[quote='rpmaluki' pid='48125' dateline='1488600651 You may not think it's permanent (it's you prerogative) but the show has given enough hints to the contrary, like Nick telling Adalind he thought he'd go crazy without her. In this very episode he tells her he's worried about her because if the mirror monster is after Eve because of her being a hexenbiest, he feels she could be in danger as well because she's a hexenbiest also. We know Adalind's already told him not to share stuff with her for his own safety, granted that was at a time when BC/Sean was still after him. Adalind clearly trust Nick already has her and her children's safety in mind, so no need to make demands of him. She doesn't obsess over Nick Grimm life like Juliette did which we saw that it did her no favours in the end. Nick's relationship with Adalind will never be like Nick's relationship with Juliette, thankfully and it doesn't need to be. He's in a different place as a man/Grimm and now father, he's not the same naive Nick we met at the beginning. I don't need Nick to redo with Adalind his failed relationship with Juliette that imo superficially had all the bells and whistles of a loving relationship (I didn't believe they loved each other as much as the show told me they did, I believe THEY believed they loved each other as much as THEY think they did, so I'd never want anyone to aspire to S1-4A Nick/Juliette's version of love). Nick and Adalind's current situation seems to be working for them and they appear to be in a better place than he was with Juliette in a fraction of the latter's screen time. There's no disillusionment between Nick and Adalind, if neither wanted to be together, they'd say so and just like Adalind and Sean, they'd work out a custody agreement for Kelly's sake. I prefer them as a pairing, they are better suited for one another in the people they have grown to become even if the individual writing leaves much to be desired for both Nick and Adalind at the moment. [/quote]
03-04-2017, 04:53 AM
Why is the show not giving Adalind an active part in the story arch. Sean is making a major contribution. Even though the group does not even know he is helping. How much more does Diana have to show she is connected before Adalind feels it is important enough to get involved. The other thing that seems strange. Eve has not helped on a single case. If it is not symbol related she is not interested.
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03-04-2017, 05:38 AM
(03-04-2017, 04:53 AM)syscrash Wrote: Why is the show not giving Adalind an active part in the story arch. Sean is making a major contribution. Even though the group does not even know he is helping. How much more does Diana have to show she is connected before Adalind feels it is important enough to get involved. The other thing that seems strange. Eve has not helped on a single case. If it is not symbol related she is not interested. From the way it's written it seems Eve has bigger fish to fry than chasing after wesen of the week with Nick and his friends. Meanwhile, what would you like Adalind to do? She knows as much as the group does about the cloth and the symbols which is less than what Sean knows. I'm sure Sean will put her up to speed seeing that she, Nick and Renard will work together to help Diana.
03-04-2017, 06:18 AM
(03-04-2017, 04:53 AM)syscrash Wrote: Why is the show not giving Adalind an active part in the story arch. Sean is making a major contribution. Even though the group does not even know he is helping. How much more does Diana have to show she is connected before Adalind feels it is important enough to get involved. The other thing that seems strange. Eve has not helped on a single case. If it is not symbol related she is not interested. At the moment it seems to only be connected to Eve. The Mirror monster hasn't contacted or attacked anyone else. Diana isn't feeling any ill effects either. The Russian thinks Diana is connected to this because neither her nor Sean know about the Cloth Diana saw. To them Diana is just making up these symbols. The Symbols Diana drew though are simply nothing more than a Replica of what was on the Cloth and what Eve drew. Diana has no connection to the cloth or Stick. Diana has been established as an extremely powerful Hexenbiest. So powerful that some think she can reshape the world. So it isn't surprising she has spacial awareness abilities. Diana only knows so much though. She doesn't know what it is or when it is coming. She doesn't even know what the symbols mean. Her knowledge of the situation is slightly more than anyone else. With that so far nothing suggest the Mirror monster is after Diana or that it will hurt her. The only person at this point we know has a connection to it is Eve. At this point Adalind shouldn't be worried. You however are probably going by the spoilers of upcoming episode to come to the conclusion Diana is in danger. However at this point Episode 6x09 Adalind shouldn't be concerned the Mirror monster is after Diana.
03-04-2017, 06:35 AM
(03-03-2017, 11:22 PM)rpmaluki Wrote: Not every couple responds the same in terms of showing commitment. Some want the physical gestures of flowers, dinner dates by candle light while others don't. Nick and Adalind haven't settled long enough to work that out for themselves. They've gone from crisis to crisis which has always been the focal point on this show. What happened with Nick and Juliette was so that we could watch some wesen or Adalind in particular bulldoze in some form or another. Nick and Juliette's life had the appearance of normalcy that the writers pointedly destroyed from the beginning. Most couples do what Nick and Juliette did but without the danger attached so they get to enjoy each other fully without drama. That was never the case on the show. And some couples do things backwards like Nick and Adalind but also without the drama. The first is typical and the second, atypical and both are tropes depending on what the writers want to convey. Both can be very successful just as both are susceptible to failure. Besides, having Nick and Adalind going on dates, doing flowers and wine in S5 would not be true to their story. That was Juliette and Nick and there is no need to compare the two because the dynamics are totally different. I think it would have been really awkward if suddenly we saw Adalind and Nick doing that without setting a stage for it which is what I believe they're doing now.
03-04-2017, 06:57 AM
The episode discussion thread has eight comments while the ‘OMG another wasted episode’ thread has 35. That face-slapping flag is pretty hard to ignore.
Quote:Why is the show not giving Adalind an active part in the story arch. Sean is making a major contribution. Even though the group does not even know he is helping. How much more does Diana have to show she is connected before Adalind feels it is important enough to get involved. The other thing that seems strange. Eve has not helped on a single case. If it is not symbol related she is not interested.I don’t see a significant difference between Adalind’s behavior/reaction now and S1. Adalind has always made choices based on limited options. Going to Renard/BC in S5 was more of the same - she had two choices and picked one. Returning to Nick rather than staying with Renard in S6 was more of the same - she had two choices and picked one. But perhaps Adalind would be compelled to act if Nick came clean with his long list of secrets. So far, Adalind hasn’t been told anything beyond what was absolutely necessary. I agree with you that Adalind should be more proactive in Diana’s safety, but as with all the characters, lack of proactive responses makes it easier for the creative team to meander toward their desired conclusion - G & K don’t concern themselves with expected reactions, especially if it compromises an easy path. Juliette seems to be interested in what has happened to her Eve personality & Hexenbiest powers. At this point, she’s understandably focused on getting back what the stick took from her, not investigating routine Grimm/cop cases. Personally, I'm relieved Juliette hasn't been completely re-contorted from HW's single-focus asset to Nick's single-focus asset. It would be all to easy for G & K to make the emotionally compromised Eve Nick's watchdog.
"If my devils are to leave me, I am afraid my angels will take flight as well." Rainer Maria Rilke
03-04-2017, 07:05 AM
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I'm still sorry the show's ending, but after watching the writers casually throw so many episodes into the dustbin, I'm starting to understand why it was canceled.
At least the tree monster itself was kind of cool. It's time for old-school practical effects to make an epic comeback. (03-03-2017, 09:10 PM)rpmaluki Wrote: You may not think it's permanent (it's you prerogative) but the show has given enough hints to the contrary, like Nick telling Adalind he thought he'd go crazy without her. In this very episode he tells her he's worried about her because if the mirror monster is after Eve because of her being a hexenbiest, he feels she could be in danger as well because she's a hexenbiest also. We know Adalind's already told him not to share stuff with her for his own safety, granted that was at a time when BC/Sean was still after him. Adalind clearly trust Nick already has her and her children's safety in mind, so no need to make demands of him. She doesn't obsess over Nick Grimm life like Juliette did which we saw that it did her no favours in the end. Heya rpmaluki, I have been reading your points and posts in this thread and I must say you have been hitting the bulls eye from the start of the thread to present. What you have put down could not have been stressed, expressed, explained or detailed better. The Adalind - Nick relationship factor to Nick's former relationship with Juliette, the Rosalee part, the shows motive to romance and how the show runners are addressing it... and its story arc focus to the Grimms relationships. To me, I believe you have hit pin point bulls eye on the general focus of the show on the main characters and what the execs were and are trying to conclude. |
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