In that moment you don't know for certain if he's really trying to help because you rationality is influenced by the stories you heard as a child. It's only after Nick insists that he's there to help that they calm down and allow him to help and even then I doubt it keeps them from thinking he could change his mind at any given moment. Some trust Nick fully but other remain distrustful.
09-02-2016, 11:35 PM (This post was last modified: 09-02-2016, 11:41 PM by syscrash.)
Ok lets take Juliette's friend Alicia. Juliette and Nick have known her for a while. They let her stay with them saving her from the violence of her husband. But as soon as Juliette tells Alicia Nick is a Grimm. She goes into extreme fear mode. Her response was extremely irrational. Even when Nick was trying to calm her down she continued to freak out.That is why I say the fear we see is an involuntary reflex. That is why I say it is an irrational response. It is not something that comes from a real sense of fear. Alicia had no reasonable reason to fear Nick. The same as Juliette and Adalind had no realistic reason to fear Nick would kill them.
the good thing about this situation is that the husband of Alicia feared.a coward and braggart.He lived beating his wife.
but before a "GRIMM" recoiled. the wesen used to tell their children that if they did not behave would come "GRIMM".
Here, for children to take a nap tell them to come flap(solapa).
not all "WESEN" act out of fear.Ariel was curious, perhaps besides that wanted to fight against his father.
even kiss.and got into bed.They believe that there will be told the Monroe?I think not.
Monroe was not afraid .is an adult,rational.might be afraid of other things
A thought: there ARE frogs that can kill you-you touch, you die. Until you know which ones are dangerous, best to be careful. If you have heard all your life that some snakes will bite and kill you, and you see a snake in the wild, it is not irrational to be afraid. After seeing the movie Reverant? about the mountain man attacked by a bear, you will never look at a teddy bear the same. It is not irrational for the wessen to fear the first Grimm you see, there is no way to know if its the last thing they will see. There are You Tube videos of small children at the zoo, they are behind a glass wall, turn to smile at mom, and the tiger is really trying to eat them. Is it irrational to keep your kids away from wild lions and tigers? Is it rational not to be afraid of the unknown?
09-07-2016, 07:27 AM (This post was last modified: 09-07-2016, 07:31 AM by irukandji.)
(09-03-2016, 05:05 PM)eric Wrote: A thought: there ARE frogs that can kill you-you touch, you die. Until you know which ones are dangerous, best to be careful. If you have heard all your life that some snakes will bite and kill you, and you see a snake in the wild, it is not irrational to be afraid. After seeing the movie Reverant? about the mountain man attacked by a bear, you will never look at a teddy bear the same. It is not irrational for the wessen to fear the first Grimm you see, there is no way to know if its the last thing they will see. There are You Tube videos of small children at the zoo, they are behind a glass wall, turn to smile at mom, and the tiger is really trying to eat them. Is it irrational to keep your kids away from wild lions and tigers? Is it rational not to be afraid of the unknown?
I like Monroe, don't get me wrong. But sometimes I wish there were more so called "experts" on Grimm than just him. He spouts off some story that parents tell boogeyman stories of the Grimms to young wesen. I think he even showed Nick some children's book on the subject, then he acts like this is something across the board for all wesen, 24/7. How can that be? If someone came on the forum and said all children are taught about the boogeyman, I'd lay odds there'd be at least three or four people who'd completely disagree.
My parents never talked about the boogeyman. Dad instead talked about the dangers and mishaps of real people. If I asked my mother whether all snakes bite or all snakes are poisonous, she'd tell me to research it at the library and find out for myself (no computers back then).
I find it really hard to believe that wesen who've been programmed with a boogeyman Grimm story by their parents would go out and commit crimes anyway. Yet when Nick shows up, they wig out and run away, all of the sudden remembering what their parents said? IMO it's more than likely an inherent genetic response to danger, prey to predator.
Which brings me to my next questions regarding those black eyed Grimms. Is the black eye thing something the Grimm does in response to the woge?
Or, is the black eye thing something specific to the wesen himself that has nothing to do with the Grimm? In other words is it a message to the wesen that danger is near and they either need to fight or flee?
It's interesting to me that Nick would run to his Grimm diaries constantly to find out the most vicious things wesen could do. Yet he never once questioned why wesen reacted the way they do to him. It's a weapon for him, to be sure, but it could also be a major drawback and result in his death. Intelligent as ever, that's Nick for you.
The best way to frustrate a cyberbully is to ignore him.
Dear Irukandji, Grimm's are not fictional boogyman for the wessen, they are real dangers good parents warn children about. From their point of view a live Grimm is a dangerous Grimm, avoid at all costs. Several wessen on the show talked about Grimm killing members of their families. Just because adults know wild creatures are dangerous has not stopped some fools from thinking they can go out and live among bears, who will accept them, not eat them. I have seen people trying to feed live loose bears and gators-dumb dumb dumb. Most wessen have never seen a real Grimm-that didn't mean wessen shouldn't fear them, they are well known cold stone killing machines.
09-07-2016, 09:25 AM (This post was last modified: 09-07-2016, 03:20 PM by irukandji.)
(09-07-2016, 08:41 AM)eric Wrote: Dear Irukandji, Grimm's are not fictional boogyman for the wessen, they are real dangers good parents warn children about. From their point of view a live Grimm is a dangerous Grimm, avoid at all costs. Several wessen on the show talked about Grimm killing members of their families. Just because adults know wild creatures are dangerous has not stopped some fools from thinking they can go out and live among bears, who will accept them, not eat them. I have seen people trying to feed live loose bears and gators-dumb dumb dumb. Most wessen have never seen a real Grimm-that didn't mean wessen shouldn't fear them, they are well known cold stone killing machines.
The way I understand wesen children, they don't woge until they are older. I'm not sure if puberty plays a factor, but I tend to think it does. So what kind of story is a parent telling to a little child, eric? Are they really going into the gory details of Grimms when their child hasn't woged yet? I don't think so. As for the wesen who say their family members were killed by a Grimm, it's interesting to me that these wesen never say how they escaped or why their family member was killed.
I'm not disagreeing with you that there is a fear factor here, but I don't attribute it to boogeyman stories as a child. I think there's a genetic preponderance to a wesen's fear of a Grimm. It's either something the Grimm possesses or something the wesen possesses when a Grimm is near.
The best way to frustrate a cyberbully is to ignore him.