02-05-2017, 02:18 PM
(02-05-2017, 01:35 PM)Robyn Wrote: Js, I’m confused. You started this discussion speculating that Meisner might have been an HW agent working inside the Resistance and spying on the Royals:First answer would be a value to the resistance as a leverage on the royals not as a powerful hexenbiest. Who could know as a baby what Diana would become, but as a royal she had leverage as a royal. HW could have careless on this value. So Meisner telling her the child had value to the resistance was true, at the time value to HW wasn't a question.
Quote:They never gave us a timeline on HW, but because he showed up in HW and Diaan as far as we know never made it to the resistance but to HW, was he alway HW spy?
Now you seem to be debating whether it’s a viable possibility. If speculating Meisner was an undisclosed double agent, we have to assume that events from S3 were not as exactly seen/interpreted. Meisner told Adalind in the car that she and her baby were very important to the Resistance. As a spy, he wouldn’t mention HW’s interest. If the Resistance knew Diana was valuable, then Meisner knew, which means HW knew. Everyone knew, or at least believed in S3 that Diana was a valuable asset.
Viktor told the Resistance the Royals’ plans to come to Portland and take Diana. Which means Meisner knew, which means HW knew. HW knew whatever the Resistance knew, because Meisner, the spy, was feeding them information. If the Royals assumed Kelly would respond to Nick being in danger and bring Diana with her, then HW made the same assumption and planned accordingly.
If Meisner was an HW spy working a covert operation, the Royals, the Resistance, and viewers would not be aware of them until HW disclosed it’s existence in S5. And then they would only disclose information on a need to know basis.
(02-05-2017, 01:02 PM)FaceInTheCrowd Wrote: And if Meisner was already in HW in S03, why wouldn't he have just taken Adalind and Diana to them then?If speculating HW’s involvement in S3, the plan could have been to take them once landing in Brazil. But Kelly rerouting the plane to Portland derailed those plans.
On the flipside, if HW was actively involved in S3, they could have intervened in Portland and taken Diana. And hopefully Adalind too.
I wasn’t impressed with Meisner’s operation, but Chavez’ was impressive. Maybe because it was for such a brief time. But her team made quick work of neutralizing a Grimm and taking a Hexenbiest.
Now looking at how fast Diana ages change a lot of value, no longer is she just a royal but a very very powerful hexenbiest. The thread is just a question each can have their own opinion. Mine is Meisner was HW spy your looks to be he isn't so the debate if we agreed wouldn't be a reason to debate.
I used the timeline to the plane as a not giving Meisner time to tell HW Diana has some type of power, but because he thought they were going to Brazil HW could get them there. Kelly changed the plan and the resistance and HW lost out on Diana, until Kenneth shows up to get her back. Now if the actress who played Kelly had stayed with the series would the writers have even used Diana as any part of the storyline is another question.
We know Meisner shows up in season 5 as HW, so when did this happen in your opinion?