05-02-2016, 07:53 AM
(05-02-2016, 07:20 AM)irukandji Wrote:(05-01-2016, 11:45 PM)syscrash Wrote: irukandji I was looking for as you posted a thoughtful observation, one of the few. That is what I was looking for. Instead it is page after page of the same none thought provoking regurgitated statements. Face in the crow is another poster that looks at the objectively. We all have our biases and the sways us one way or the other. personal preference is one thing. It is when the preference is defended using distorted reasoning. I was hoping to start this off with a philosophical observation how the show mirrors real life. I hoped I would get that type of response.
As for the Sean the family man angle, that has so many holes, I have written it off as a plot device, not a point they trying to make. Like you said they not married, and it is public record Kelly is not Sean's. How do you explain the timeline for Diana. And after seeing Diana in action. Are you really going to put her in front of a camera. The most basic research would turn up way more then enough for a scandal. IMO they would have done better as him being the bachelor candidate. Someone dedicated to his work.
I know you read the thread, syscrash, and I am sorry for commenting on it. I think this is a very good topic. I'm not sure how this would compare to the real world, but I may think of something later. In the meantime, I wanted to talk about one of my favorite all time characters, Nick.
Nick started out the season on an insane note, in my opinion. It was not grief insanity over his mother or Juliette, although he did have some pangs about Juliette for a few minutes into the first episode I believe. Nick's insanity was in relation to HW. He saw Trubel being 'kidnapped' and then was given something to put him to sleep. When he woke up, the place was clean, and Juliette and the head were gone.
Nick then goes on a crusade to find Trubel. He comes to work, disregarding the orders of his superior, illegally barges into Chavez's office and threatens her. When that doesn't work he goes to her house and kidnaps her, and Nick being Nick, brings the scoobies into it. What I thought was amusing was the fact that Nick seemed peeved because HW failed to recognize him as *The Grimm* So he makes sure the kidnapped Chavez knows he is *The Grimm*. Chavez rolls her eyes, relents, and tells the super secret bunch she was wrong and is bringing *The Grimm* in. Chavez explains no one knows who anyone is, different people are involved. Their meetings are so secret, that no one even knows where they're meeting ahead of time. Yet, before they get to see just how uninteresting *The Grimm* really is, they all get killed, including Chavez. Nick, the lone survivor, gets the batphone and for the most part, goes back to square one.
There are a few whiffs of BC here and there but things really do not start up again until Nick and the gang walk into a trap and Eve saves them.
The common denominator in this is Nick. He is the one person who survived both attacks. Was BC interested in Nick, so they deliberately made sure he wasn't killed along with Chavez and the others? Was Eve called to the scene because HW got wind of BC's interest in Nick, and so HW is trying to sway them to their side?
No one really knows because Nick then takes a really strange tactic. He still doesn't know what HW is all about, but the insanity about finding out who they are, what they do, etc., just.....dies. I suppose some of this is due to Trubel appearing on the scene. Trubel cracks me up here because she can't seem to get the correct name of the organization she's been kidnapped to serve. Trubel, Meisner, and Eve all give Nick bits and pieces of the organization. Even after that, no one really knows anything, but Nick brings the question to the scoobies about joining, they all decide it should be a unanimous decision and then that issue dies.
Nick continues to astonish me with his complete lack of curiosity. For instance, why did HW send Trubel as the ambassador to recruit for HW? I'm sorry but a person who can't even get their name straight is not a candidate for bringing the masses in. Then there's Meisner who shuns any questions by simply chalking it up to the government footing the bill. When asked to lend a dollar to get important information pertinent to a murder, he refuses. Eve is completely focused on Renard, so she's useless. I am getting the impression that this is a little offshoot of HW and we know nothing of the main organization of which Chavez was a part.
seriously, you are astonished by nick's lack of curosity and stupidity at this time- 1. he took him 3 years to ask monroe and rosalee how wesens identifies grimms and even when hank told him to ask them how, he went there only to tell them he cant go to their wedding and they themselves brought it up. the only first time trubel got to be friends with wesens, it was one of the first questions she asked them.
2. you are a cop (worst a detective) your GF(maybe ex) got bailed or got out of jail and as a cop you are not curious as to how she got out.
3. cop and detectives pride themselves on details and you can't seem to understand what you are getting into interms of HW and BC.