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#31
04-09-2017, 11:01 PM
But we're talking about the Grimm family trees here. They left out everybody who wasn't a Grimm.

The most likely way Grimms got left off the trees would be people either being rejected by or just walking away from their families and not notifying whoever was keeping the book up that there were new Grimms in their lineage.
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04-09-2017, 11:03 PM (This post was last modified: 04-09-2017, 11:12 PM by MarylikesGrimm.)
(04-09-2017, 11:01 PM)FaceInTheCrowd Wrote: But we're talking about the Grimm family trees here. They left out everybody who wasn't a Grimm.

All the first names of older grimms were (pre-1900) were males names we could see in the book. It was common to leave the females off.

Hilda was not on Nick's family tree in the Grimm book under Kessler but his mom told him she was a grimm and his great great grandmother.
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04-09-2017, 11:07 PM
So the tree you posted the link to is wrong...
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04-09-2017, 11:07 PM (This post was last modified: 04-10-2017, 04:02 AM by MarylikesGrimm.)
(04-09-2017, 11:07 PM)FaceInTheCrowd Wrote: So the tree you posted the link to is wrong...

No. Hilda is not on his Kessler family tree in the grimm book and to me that means she could be on a different grimm family tree or could be missing.

Jonathan Kessler is listed in the Kessler family tree in the grimm book and he is born about the same time as Hilda.

Sorry for being confusing.
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04-09-2017, 11:17 PM
She is on the tree in the wikia. Which is one reason I never rely on wikia information.
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04-09-2017, 11:19 PM (This post was last modified: 04-09-2017, 11:32 PM by MarylikesGrimm.)
(04-09-2017, 11:17 PM)FaceInTheCrowd Wrote: She is on the tree in the wikia (she should be there). Which is one reason I never rely on wikia information.

The wiki is showing all relatives not just the grimm in one family line.

My view is each grimm is listed under only one grimm family line in the book. Hilda could be from a different family line than the Kessler but the Kessler was a male so off spring will be Kessler grimms.

What if Jonathan Kessler married Hilda Porter. What grimm family line would list Hilda Porter? I believe she would be on the Porter family line or not listed at all.
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04-09-2017, 11:44 PM
(04-09-2017, 08:45 PM)FaceInTheCrowd Wrote:
(04-09-2017, 08:13 PM)MarylikesGrimm Wrote: Hilda was not in the Kessler family tree in the grimm book.

They never showed the full Kessler family tree. We saw folded pages exposing some names from the 1600s, then they unfolded one of the pages and showed a close-in view of Nick's grandfather Walter and his branch of the family.

(04-09-2017, 07:36 PM)Nicholas White Wrote: If Kelly's Grandparents were both Grimms but Truble is from her Grandmothers side than she wouldn't be a Kessler but rather part of another family line. Kelly would have got her last name from her father who got his last name from his father and so on.


Trubel might well be 1/2 from one of the other Grimm families, but the half that mattered in the finale was the one that makes her Nick's cousin, and that's from the Kessler tree.


They never said she was a Kessler. All was said was that she was Nick's third cousin.

If both Kelly's grandparent's were Grimms and Truble is from her grandmother side which isn't a Kessler where her Grandfather is a Kessler, that would not make Truble a Kessler. Yet Truble would still be Nick's third cousin.

I don't know if my example make sense but for Truble to be Nick's cousin and a Grimm that doesn't mean she is a Kessler. With each generation a New family line is added. Unless you interbreed with your family.
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04-10-2017, 04:39 AM
Trubel would be a kessler. Even if her surname is Rubel. Just like Nicks family name is kessler even though his surname is burkhardt. The same with his son he is also part of the kessler family line.

What people are thinking. Because of marriage the family name would change. Marriage only changes the surname. not the family they are from. Think of it as tracing bloodline heritage. There are seven original grimm meaning there are only seven grimm family lines. No matter how many marriages take place. The same with the royal families. There can not be more then seven royal families. There can be less if there are no off springs.

Nick is actually Nick Burkhardt from the house of kessler. As a male he could take on kessler as a surname. The same with Kelly. If Nick and Adalind married. Diana could become a burkhardt. She could never become a kessler. Diana could be a Kronenberg because she is of that blood line.
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04-10-2017, 04:43 AM (This post was last modified: 04-10-2017, 07:08 AM by MarylikesGrimm.)
(04-10-2017, 04:39 AM)syscrash Wrote: Trubel would be a kessler. Even if her surname is Rubel. Just like Nicks family name is kessler even though his surname is burkhardt. The same with his son he is also part of the kessler family line.

What rule are you using when one male grimm marries a female grimm of a different line? What grimm line does the child get?

It looks like Nick has two great great grandparents who are grimms and one is a male grimm ( Jonathan Kessler) who is a kessler another is a female grimm (Hilda) from a different family line.
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04-10-2017, 07:48 AM (This post was last modified: 04-10-2017, 08:23 AM by MarylikesGrimm.)
(04-10-2017, 04:43 AM)MarylikesGrimm Wrote:
(04-10-2017, 04:39 AM)syscrash Wrote: Trubel would be a kessler. Even if her surname is Rubel. Just like Nicks family name is kessler even though his surname is burkhardt. The same with his son he is also part of the kessler family line.

What rule are you using when one male grimm marries a female grimm of a different line? What grimm line does the child get?

It looks like Nick has two great great grandparents who are grimms and one is a male grimm ( Jonathan Kessler) who is a kessler another is a female grimm (Hilda) from a different family line.

http://grimm.wikia.com/wiki/Theresa_Rubel
Theresa Rubel
Actor: Jacqueline Toboni
About
Gender: Female
Type: Grimm
Service of: Hadrian's Wall
Relationships: Nick Burkhardt, third cousin
Dead Hilda (grimm), great-great-grandmother (not on the Kessler grimm family tree in the Grimm book).

"Trubel" is not only a play on her name, but it is also a German word meaning "confusion," "excitement," or "turmoil."
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