Nick's objective with Adalind was do what he needed to do to save Hank. Would Nick have killed Adalind if Hank had died? That early in the series, probably not.
Kenneth killing Kelly with Juliette's help was supposed to be the tipping point that would turn Nick the good guy unto a darker character. Then someone decided to make the series more "relevant" by introducing an ISIL-llike wesen faction and HW and there went that plot.
(03-21-2019, 05:19 AM)brandon Wrote: Nick did not kill her because he was not a killer psychopath.
Yet he killed Kenneth.
Lots of non-psychopaths would kill the killer who killed their Mom within the last 24 hours.
I guess if you look at that warehouse scene with blind folders, they saw him as a psychotic killer If Nick was a psychopath killer, he would have kept him with his handcuffs on and just stabbed his ass in the neck after they brought him to that warehouse, and be done with.
What saw was Wu, remove his handcuffs and left him to his own accord before Nick popped out of the shadows and gave him every opportunity to kick his ass.
I also recall a scene when Hank and Wu were talking outside the warehouse discussing what they would do if Nick lost the fight. So for someone to make such a claim as Nick being a "psychotic killer", is proof of the name caller having no clue of the meaning of the term. nor the ability to see what actually occurred on the screen. I don't recall Kenneth being tied to a chair while Nick killed him. The vambrace was a nice touch and well deserved demise for Kenny Boy.
My other observation is this. If, if according to this name calling contributor, what Nick did to Kenneth is considered to be the actions of such a killer. Using the same standards, what does what Kenneth, Rispoli and company did to, Nick's mom Kelly and Nick's neighbors, make them?
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03-21-2019, 12:20 PM (This post was last modified: 03-21-2019, 12:22 PM by irukandji.)
(03-21-2019, 07:43 AM)eric Wrote: Lots of non-psychopaths would kill the killer who killed their Mom within the last 24 hours.
Would Nick allow a wesen to revenge his/her mother's death or would he take him/her into custody for murder?
(03-21-2019, 07:25 AM)FaceInTheCrowd Wrote: Nick's objective with Adalind was do what he needed to do to save Hank. Would Nick have killed Adalind if Hank had died? That early in the series, probably not.
Was Marie as much of a mother to Nick as he indicated to Juliette then?
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03-21-2019, 01:07 PM (This post was last modified: 03-21-2019, 02:12 PM by N_grimm.)
(03-21-2019, 07:43 AM)eric Wrote:
(03-21-2019, 05:59 AM)irukandji Wrote:
(03-21-2019, 05:19 AM)brandon Wrote: Nick did not kill her because he was not a killer psychopath.
Yet he killed Kenneth.
Lots of non-psychopaths would kill the killer who killed their Mom within the last 24 hours.
Thanks for pointing out the obvious!
(03-21-2019, 12:05 PM)dicappatore Wrote: I guess if you look at that warehouse scene with blind folders, they saw him as a psychotic killer If Nick was a psychopath killer, he would have kept him with his handcuffs on and just stabbed his ass in the neck after they brought him to that warehouse, and be done with.
What saw was Wu, remove his handcuffs and left him to his own accord before Nick popped out of the shadows and gave him every opportunity to kick his ass.
I also recall a scene when Hank and Wu were talking outside the warehouse discussing what they would do if Nick lost the fight. So for someone to make such a claim as Nick being a "psychotic killer", is proof of the name caller having no clue of the meaning of the term. nor the ability to see what actually occurred on the screen. I don't recall Kenneth being tied to a chair while Nick killed him. The vambrace was a nice touch and well deserved demise for Kenny Boy.
My other observation is this. If, if according to this name calling contributor, what Nick did to Kenneth is considered to be the actions of such a killer. Using the same standards, what does what Kenneth, Rispoli and company did to, Nick's mom Kelly and Nick's neighbors, make them?
Good description of what actually happened. Even when Nick had lost everything and was filled with rage and sought revenge, he gave Kenneth a chance to fight. Something Kelly never got. That tells you a lot about Nick’s “moral standards”. The claim that Nick was a “killer psychopath” can't even be taken seriously.
(03-21-2019, 07:43 AM)eric Wrote: Lots of non-psychopaths would kill the killer who killed their Mom within the last 24 hours.
Would Nick allow a wesen to revenge his/her mother's death or would he take him/her into custody for murder?
Just more examples of made up facts to fit an agenda which never occurred as it is insinuated above. Plus to add, rehashing repeated arguments discussed on other many threads in an attempt to beat a dead horse to death.
To ask the dumb question, if Nick would allow a Wesen to get revenge on someones murdered mother, compare the killing of Ken, as revenge, is not the same situation.
Ken was a Royal. The same type of royal as Eric. Eric, as a Royal, had diplomatic immunity. That is how he was able to sneak out a fake dead Nick under the guise of a dead, Thomas Schirach. He got away with it because as a royal, he had diplomatic immunity. Since Ken took over Eric's position, he also had the same immunity.
As I recall, and I might be wrong on this, but when a diplomat, with diplomatic immunity, commits a crime in a foreign country, he/she is deported back to his/her country. If they would have taken Ken to a cell at the police station, he would have been released and escorted to the airport, put on a plane to his country of origin with the promise of that country's police to arrest him and the legal system persecute him.
If Nick & company had done that, I wonder if Ken would have been found guilty of murder in Austria.
(03-21-2019, 12:20 PM)irukandji Wrote:
(03-21-2019, 07:25 AM)FaceInTheCrowd Wrote: Nick's objective with Adalind was do what he needed to do to save Hank. Would Nick have killed Adalind if Hank had died? That early in the series, probably not.
Was Marie as much of a mother to Nick as he indicated to Juliette then?
Nick's second mom, Aunt Marie was not killed by Adalind. She might have stressed her out on her stay at the hospital but what made his aunt end up on her death's bed was due to her cancer and the additional attempt by a Reaper trying to kill her.
To insinuate Adalind's action to his aunt Marie equated what Juliette did to his 1st mom, Kelly is, again, idiotic just as it has been idiotic on the many discussion about this on various other threads.
Call me a bully all day long. At least this bully was observant on what was transpiring on the screen.
You know you are OLD, when you see the Slide Ruler you used in college selling in an ANTIQUE SHOP!!
I don't think Nick and Adalind is the end game. When in danger she ran away from Nick. Why would we think she would not do it again if in danger. You then have the ending with his aunt and mom impressing on him the importance of his heritage. If he stakes their advice how would he maintain living in a family situation. His mother left to not bring dange to the family. His aunt stop being a grimm to raise Nick for the same reason. You then have potter who choose raising his son instead of being a Grimm. Why would we think Nick would be different. Most episodes brought danger to his door step. We saw what happened to Juliette because of people wanted to hurt Nick. Why would we not think Kelly would not be in the same danger. We have already seen Conrad threaten Adalind with Kelly about being with Nick. For Nick and Adalind to be the end game. We would have to believe they could overcome all these obstacles.