06-28-2017, 09:07 AM
(This post was last modified: 06-28-2017, 09:23 AM by dicappatore.)
(06-28-2017, 08:05 AM)rpmaluki Wrote:(06-28-2017, 07:49 AM)brandon Wrote: Adalind know the GRIMM (1)Maybe it's an instinctual thing for wesen to fear Grimms. Juliette was just newly minted, and forgot Nick completely and only saw the hunter/killer/Grimm in him even though in the two years she'd seen him operate he wasn't killing wesen all willy nilly. Anything less than the wesen instinct doesn't make sense why she'd assume Nick was a threat to her. I believe once she got over the irrational fear, Nick "rejected" her by not kissing her and the hexenbiest in her amped up all the negative thoughts, perceptions of her relationship with him, thereby falling prey to a supernatural rage that also didn't make sense. At this stage she realised her power and gave in to its seduction but it didn't make her happy or feel good about herself but she was past the point of caring. There was nothing Nick could have done to assuage the biest. Either one or the other would have ended up dead and that was almost true for both.
Juliette know a Nick. Why feared?
For me? can only speculate on what is in the show.
Fact, Nick was a new type of Grimm from the traditional ones, his mom, aunt, etc... Has faced 3 other Hexenbiest and only fought with Adalind Took her Hex but did not kill her or the other 2. Add Sean a third male Hex equivalent.
Fact, she made a pact with Nick, no more secrets
Fact, given her profession, A vet, but still a doctor. Her ability not just to adapt to the Wesen/Grimm world, but to assist and do research for the gang. She was no damsel in distress.
Fact. In the supermarket talking to Nick about love, In the trailer talking about her grandmother, in the coffee shop talking to her dorm room mate, paint a Juliette with a promiscuous past.
Fact, Juliette feared Nick would kill her.
Fact, in a few interviews with the actress E. Tulloch, she confides changes of her character going dark.
Given these facts, why would Juliette fear and react so volatile to Nick, and not be up front with her condition sooner? Given the facts presented to us? Makes no sense.
IMO, this is where the writers screwed up the logic in writing her progression to the dark side. But we don’t get the right or opportunity to write our own story. Unable to get into the head of a fictional character.
We can only asses the character based on what’s given. We can put blame on this, that, or what we wish would have happened, but it’s not part of the story.
Based on what is presented, Her Hex, her change of mind, the planets lining up makes no difference. She releases what she becomes, a selfish unforgivable power hungry floozy we see in season 4. No more, no less
(06-27-2017, 09:01 PM)rpmaluki Wrote:(06-27-2017, 08:40 PM)Devegs Wrote:Very well said.(06-27-2017, 06:19 PM)silver Wrote: Somehow, Adalind always manages to slither by when bad stuff happens because of her spells she unleashes on everybody. Is it because she's prettier than most? Her mannerisms? Why is so much attention for blame falling on Juliette's head?! Like wow. It's not right like, at all.
Firstly, welcome to the forum.
Adalind never managed to slither off without facing repercussions. Plus, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. IMO, Adalind's beauty cannot make Juliette any less beautiful. It seems you considered one prettier than the other, idk. They were both beautiful women.
In S1 Adalind got her hex taken due to her actions.
In S2, she lost her mom as a result of the cat scratch incident.
Later, she regained her hex but double crossed the royals in the process by running off with the baby, but she still suffered because Diana got taken from her.
She returned to the royals with her tail in between her legs in the hopes of being a glorified babysitter to the child. The royals used her to punish the grimm by having her take his grimm from him. That act was also to punish Sean (since they de-powered his grimm). Most important of all, the royals used her and then meted out her own punishment too. Once she got to Vienna, they placed her in the hex dungeon.
Then royals used her as a pawn when they returned to Portland, then offered her up as bait to get another pawn in place, so as to take down Kelly and get their hands on the main prize (Diana). Adalind got that beat down from Juliette, so Juliette got some satisfaction. When Adalind ran to Nick for help, she was uncertain and, rightfully, fearful that he would not care about her or the baby. Thus, as leverage, she offered a hex suppressant to fix Juliette.
On the topic:
Juliette/Eve suffered as well but also had her own share of misdeeds. However, by the end of the series Juliette is back in the fold with the gang but prefers to remain as hexenbiest Eve. The story ends with everyone being very different from how they originally started out in S1. Nick, Juliette, Adalind, Hank and Wu have shown remarkable change from when we first met them. The scoobies all have battle scars and some have acknowledged, at different points during the final two seasons, that they all share some guilt. The writers left them all as friends in S6 E13.
In the blame game of who actually set everything in motion, I believe another poster traced it to the royals (Sean being part of this group). However, the scoobies all have blood on their hands. Each one of them. I don't bash one to prove another's virtue.
This is what blows my mind, Juliette is well aware of what took place to the point when Nick get his Grimm back but she still teams up with the main force behind all her misfortunes. With her powers and knowledge, she didn’t need to royals for anything else, including revenge for whatever beef she had with Nick. writers prerogative?
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