07-31-2015, 01:42 AM
The show is a little vague as to what Nick can (and can't) do, and the Grimm wiki doesn't help much either.
07-31-2015, 01:42 AM
The show is a little vague as to what Nick can (and can't) do, and the Grimm wiki doesn't help much either.
07-31-2015, 06:24 AM
The most important thing is that he can see Wesen in first-level wolge. He seems to be stronger and faster and to recover from injuries more quickly than normal humans. He reacts differently to Wesen-specific poisons than normal humans (e.g. the zombie-toxin of the cracher-mortel). His blood can bring a hexenbeast down to normal--it is not known if that would work with other types of Wesen. Even before the 'sight' came on him, he seemed really good at 'reading' people--observing small behavioral tics and extrapolating things about them--but we don't know if that is generally a Grimm thing or specifically a Nick thing.
07-31-2015, 07:16 AM
(This post was last modified: 07-31-2015, 07:26 AM by wfmyers1207.)
Don't know if this would be considered a 'power' but they also seem to have an instinct to archive the things they have seen. Remember in the pilot Nick was drawing the wessen who attacked Aunt Marie before he saw the Grimm books. So, it seems this is something Grimms have a instinctual need to do.
(07-31-2015, 06:21 AM)irukandji Wrote: They are proficient killers and have a knack for corruption to say the least...... Grossly unfair. In the world of Grimm, Nick and the rest of the crew can't tell people the truth. They have to cover things up. There is no realistic option for them. If they tell people the truth and are not believed they go into the booby hatch like poor Wu did. Or prison, if someone thinks they are running a "crazy card' con. If they WERE believed, it could unleash pogroms that would make the Holocaust pale in comparison. It's like Monroe said in "Natural Born Wessen"; "Bunch of knuckleheads got that ball rolling back then, and for 3 centuries there was hell to pay! And if you don't think that can happen here and now. Think again!" It would be ugly. Every poor schmuck whose neighbors think he's a bit 'odd' would be up for grabs, let alone actual wessen.
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07-31-2015, 07:54 AM
(07-31-2015, 07:16 AM)wfmyers1207 Wrote: Don't know if this would be considered a 'power' but they also seem to(07-31-2015, 06:21 AM)irukandji Wrote: They are proficient killers and have a knack for corruption to say the least...... This has nothing to do with truth. I'm responding to the question. Grimms are proficient killers and they are corrupt. They excel at those qualities, which I consider equivalent to powers.
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(07-31-2015, 06:24 AM)Elkhound Wrote: The most important thing is that he can see Wesen in first-level wolge. He seems to be stronger and faster and to recover from injuries more quickly than normal humans. He reacts differently to Wesen-specific poisons than normal humans (e.g. the zombie-toxin of the cracher-mortel). His blood can bring a hexenbeast down to normal--it is not known if that would work with other types of Wesen. Even before the 'sight' came on him, he seemed really good at 'reading' people--observing small behavioral tics and extrapolating things about them--but we don't know if that is generally a Grimm thing or specifically a Nick thing.I would add appears to sense wesen watching him we have see that a couple time with Bud in the bar when the Nuckelavee was at the bar also with the cracher-mortel. Now the writers have added hearing and zombie effect. This effect I think in season 5 will show up more after the death of Mom and Juliette. That effect give him almost superhuman feats. When you said faster were you also referring to reflexes if not than reflexes and agility. (07-31-2015, 07:54 AM)irukandji Wrote: This has nothing to do with truth. I'm responding to the question. Grimms are proficient killers and they are corrupt. They excel at those qualities, which I consider equivalent to powers. I have to agree. I would also say they appear to be able to kill without remorse and exhibit sociopath tendencies which enables them to cope with being a Grimm without falling into a state of depression. Instinctive fighting prowess. I don't think we have seen Nick training much (like the Highlander character did), and I understand this is all choreographed, but in general it is not so much he is so tough as much as he controls spatial distance very, very well and uses all points on a compass. Look at the Kenneth fight, he quickly realized going straight in on a more massive guy who had a reach and height advantage and would block with his forearms (ala Archie Moore, Ken Norton, George Foreman etc) was futile, so he changed tactics. He attacked low, bring Kenneth down and if it was reality, impairing his mobility and setting up an far more painful effect (via the vagus nerve system) when he attacked up top again. Then when in close he used leverage to throw Kenneth and disorient him. If tis was a real fight, in general the leg strike followed by the hits to the chest and then the throw would have left Kenneth gasping for breath, and once he got up he would have felt rooted as his legs would slightly seize when he stepped messing up his timing. It is only a momentary effect and assumes Kenneth did not condition his inner legs with a baseball bat or bottle, but that is all it usually takes on a non-conditioned fighter. Not sure how much the choreographers stumbled into when they did this scene, but all and all it is interesting. My point is, assuming Nick was furious, he was acting on instincts and those were pretty impressive.
08-01-2015, 07:38 AM
(07-31-2015, 03:46 PM)izzy Wrote: I have to agree. I would also say they appear to be able to kill without remorse and exhibit sociopath tendencies which enables them to cope with being a Grimm without falling into a state of depression. Remember when he found he had killed someone under the zombie influence? He certainly felt remorse for that, and came very close to turning himself in. The Captain called him on it---he was only feeling remorse for killing humans, not wesen. However, he wasn't in his right mind when he did it---temporary insanity induced by the drug. Quote: Instinctive fighting prowess. I don't think we have seen Nick training much (like the Highlander character did), and I understand this is all choreographed, but in general it is not so muc We have seen him training with Monroe. "I told you to meet me, not eat me!" (08-01-2015, 07:38 AM)Elkhound Wrote: Remember when he found he had killed someone under the zombie influence? He certainly felt remorse for that, and came very close to turning himself in. The Captain called him on it---he was only feeling remorse for killing humans, not wesen. That is exaclty my point. the Captain called him on it. The innuendo being Nick's kind kill wesen without remorse routinely. Quote: Quite so, that is what I meant by not much. When I was bouncer I trained every day for submission techniques, it was a tool of my trade. When I was a fighter, I trained every day. It was my trade. Nick must be very, very powerful not to feel the need to constantly hone his edge given how much he has to rely on physical prowess. But seldom do we see him coming or going to a workout. Same with Truble. When and where does she practice? They don't seem to, so it must be an innate power. Given their life is on the line, it would be a very caviler attitude otherwise. (08-01-2015, 07:59 AM)izzy Wrote: We have seen him training with Monroe. "I told you to meet me, not eat me!" That quote was fuel for the slashers! Quote:Quite so, that is what I meant by not much. When I was bouncer I trained every day for submission techniques, it was a tool of my trade. When I was a fighter, I trained every day. It was my trade. Nick must be very, very powerful not to feel the need to constantly hone his edge given how much he has to rely on physical prowess. But seldom do we see him coming or going to a workout. Same with Truble. When and where does she practice? They don't seem to, so it must be an innate power. Given their life is on the line, it would be a very caviler attitude otherwise. Just because it isn't shown on screen doesn't mean it doesn't happen. If it isn't important to the story--remember, they only have so many minutes per expsode--they haven't time to show it. As for Trubel, she practices every day just surviving on the street. |
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