07-09-2016, 09:37 AM
07-09-2016, 10:41 AM
(07-09-2016, 09:37 AM)Hexenadler Wrote: She was such a wasted opportunity.Hi Hexenadler, I enjoyed reading the article. I agree that the writers could have made Hexenette to be Nick's powerful love interest and crime fighting ally, but they went in an opposite direction. However I disagree with her conclusion. Hexenette decided to become Nick's nemesis and launched into violent acts of hatred toward him and the Scooby Gang. I believe it was appropriate to have Hexenette killed as just deserts for her atrocities. The article pre-dates season 5, but I will add that the creation of FrankenEve destroyed the proper conclusion to the character Juliette. She should have been put in the grave to achieve a proper "Grimm" ending. New Guy
07-09-2016, 01:50 PM
What about making a show follow the logical progression of a character a better show. That would make it totally predictable. The argument seems to be as follows. Nick should have told Juliette from the beginning. Nick should have helped her regain her memories. Nick should have accepted her becoming a hexenbiest. Nick and Juliette should have become a power couple fighting together. Though this sounds like some fantasy come true. It would be really dull to watch. Do you people realize it is the stuff that has you yelling at the TV that keeps you coming back. Characters are made to be polarizing to drive interest.
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07-09-2016, 05:14 PM
I think that despite everything they did, she would have taken that path
07-09-2016, 05:51 PM
The only thing that the groups actions have done to alter Juliette path is. Create a level of animosity, plus put her in a position to receive combat training. If Nick had accepted Juliette from the beginning. There would not have been the burning of the trailer, or the siding with the Royals. This would have eliminated the animosity. That also means Adalind would have still been with the Royals, so there would be no Nick raising his son. Their is no reason to think Kelly would not die and Meisner would not end up with Diana. The royals plan was not based on Juliette. Juliette was an after thought. The Royals tried kidnapping Juliette but failed. There is still Rosalee they could use for leverage.
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07-09-2016, 08:20 PM
07-09-2016, 10:35 PM
Even if Nick accepted Juilette in the beginning she still would have spiraled out of control. I mean even before she told Nick she was going off the deep end. Also Nick didn't do anything wrong. Juilette wanted a cure clearly as when she went to Renard but when Nick and the gang wanted to help she didn't want to be cured anymore.
All the Scooby gang did was try to help Juilette who clearly needed help. Blaming them is like friends trying to help a crack attic and the crack attic not wanting help and then the crack attic burning down the house. Are you going to say the friends should have just accepted them and that never would have happened? Also before people say they are different not really. Juilette was having dreams about killing Rosalee, starting bar fights, blowing people cars up, not caring that people are being killed, etc. Saying she only did those things because she is having a hard time means nothing because people go to crack when they are having a bad time too doesn't mean they don't need help.
07-09-2016, 11:21 PM
(07-09-2016, 10:35 PM)Nicholas White Wrote: Even if Nick accepted Juilette in the beginning she still would have spiraled out of control. I mean even before she told Nick she was going off the deep end. Also Nick didn't do anything wrong. Juilette wanted a cure clearly as when she went to Renard but when Nick and the gang wanted to help she didn't want to be cured anymore. If nick and the gangs had accepted her, she would not have spiraled out of control cos she would have been able to control the biest. she had it under control before they were repulsed(not rejected-they were only disgusted) by what she was. yes she wanted a cure (when she had the spirit under control) but she's nolonger under control so the spirit rejected the cure. they did try to help but it was too late; when nick was sucking his tongue and crying, he should have been thinking of how to help, involve rosalee and monroe immediately bUt NO!!!!!!!!, he was crying. they only knew about it when juliette was going all about looking for help on HER OWN!!!!!!( the same when she lost her memory- he did nothing to help- just crying in monroe's house and to monroe). (07-09-2016, 10:35 PM)Nicholas White Wrote: Are you going to say the friends should have just accepted them and that never would have happened? it is not 100% but there is a very very good chance it would not had happened. she dreamt of killing rosalee?? really and so when she woke up, why didn't she kill her cos both of them were alone, she should have but she didn't. also dreamt of starting bar fights and all those things up there............................... you are not making any point here.
07-10-2016, 01:02 AM
Other then blowing up the car. there is not one thing you can point to that shows Juliette was out of control. Of the things she did a lot would not have happened if not for her being mad. Juliette was not out of control when she burnt the trailer, she was mad. Burning the trailer is the supernatural equivalent to keying her boyfriends car.
Nicholos you wrote a paragraph complaining about how Juliette rejected the cure. There never was a cure. If the potion was a cure then Adalind would not be a hexenbiest. In the shop Juliette rejected the potion because she had come to accept being a hexenbiest is permanent and nothing could change that. That is why I don't understand when people say the group tried to help Juliette. If they where trying to help Juliette they would have been giving her support for being a hexenbiest. Instead of focusing on reversing what can not be reversed. If the stick still leaves Eve a hexenbiest what hope is there for anything Rosalee could cook up.
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how do define some1 that does something involuntarily, without having a pre-thought of it. i don't any amount of madness that would make her set a heritage on fire or set some1 up for ambush and when she is been beaten, do nothing cos that doesn't make sense.
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