06-29-2016, 08:48 AM
(06-29-2016, 05:44 AM)jsgrimm45 Wrote: Don't see Renard keeping to the BC plan, do see him using Lucian as Chief or the Station captain. Renard isn't likely to keep the BC plan in place for the reasons, BC personnel between Eve and Nick has to be low so to keep "the plan" in play would be a race between HW and BC.
This is a well thought-out argument for Renard to sideline the wesen uprising entirely.
Don't see how, at this point, he avoids choosing Lucien for Captain - but that has its problems. For public purposes Renard may have to maintain the happy, shiny family image with Adalind, Diana, and Kelly. That's gonna put Lucien and Renard directly in conflict with Nick. Lucien is an assassin; i.e., Andrew Dixon, etc. He may widen the divide between Sean and Nick by his underhanded tactics.
Plus, Renard will have to provide a reason for former BC wesen to join his ranks. That means to me that he will have to make promises about the wesen reveal; what else can he bargain with, his winning personality, haha?
(06-29-2016, 05:44 AM)jsgrimm45 Wrote: Would think that the Portland area BC wesen my now face problems for the non BC wesen now that the fear factor has been reduced. So Renard will likely go back to season one and try the crime lord is was (from what we were told) angle he was to have in season one. He will use wesen left from BC as his enforcers. His plan will be weath not wesen rule. He may even attack the royals with his wesen contacts bring back the royal connection in and ending the series with him out of Portland back in the royal families.
That would be good for Portland, even though the citizenry would have to bring in someone to clean up the corruption left behind: enter Nick and crew.
(06-29-2016, 05:44 AM)jsgrimm45 Wrote: If and we have to believe we may be mislead Nick is the Fugitive that in a way puts Renard at a disadvantage if Nick were where he had control and could keep an eye on him if he isn't than Nick has the upper hand. Why would I say that because Nick has very good contacts in the wesen world, plus they have no case against Monroe or Rosalee so they are in the clear and can help.
Exactly, and Renard may not be able to draw Nick to his side. Not with his public display of being a family man. He'll have to get Adalind to go along by convincing her it's best for the children - that ring will help him there.
I'm trying to figure how the two men can work together and it seems unlikely. You're right on the money when you refer to Nick's contacts within the wesen community; in fact, he may have as many wesen on his side as does Sean. It's the torn loyalties and dangers that may decide where characters like Adalind and Diana stand. And therein lies the problem for Nick and Sean.
(06-29-2016, 05:44 AM)jsgrimm45 Wrote: Now Nick would have to stay in the shallows to work against Renard and the last of BC with Trubel, We know his mom did very well for years so I don't see that as big problem. Tunnels make a very good hideout to work from.
Now you're talking my language! Guerrilla town. I've got to stop promoting an idea that isn't practical, but it's hard to quit.
(06-29-2016, 05:44 AM)jsgrimm45 Wrote: Now what would happen in Portland if Josh is now a Grimm and he returned or what if Alexander shows up? A Grimm and a wesen unknown to Renard?
Plus an unknown hideout from which to launch attacks, or just keep away from the grip of the Renard forces.
Think my worry about the possibility of a Portland facing daily encounters with folks in their wesen form, egad, has been put to rest, but I still am not 100% convinced it won't become a problem.
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