11-27-2016, 06:55 PM
Adalind should have been given her powers back or Diana, but NOT both! Adalind fell in love with her baby, but in the end what she did to that child causes her to lose her in the end, but she has her powers back.
11-27-2016, 06:55 PM
Adalind should have been given her powers back or Diana, but NOT both! Adalind fell in love with her baby, but in the end what she did to that child causes her to lose her in the end, but she has her powers back.
11-27-2016, 07:49 PM
I agree with irukandji G & K always eluded to there being something more to the Juliette death idea. They even did the funeral in black and white so no one would get the impression that it was real. Add to that, they introduced Eve with as much difference as they could. They then add the dialog by Eve showing her regret that he did not get to bury Juliette. They then slowly show Eve with more and more personality. Even with all that so many just do not get it. What makes the transition seem awkward is that the writers keep dumbing down the concept in case people do not understand. I think they should have given the viewers more credit and started Eve with the personality she now has. The very first scene in the factory should have been where they had the revealing confrontation. That was the time we should have seen the real Eve. Based on some of the comments made that may have been to much for people to grasp.
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11-27-2016, 09:23 PM
(11-27-2016, 04:52 PM)syscrash Wrote: I find it amazing that so many people have trouble with the Juliette is dead concept. It is not that deep a metaphor. Each of the comments keep sighting the problem based on a literal interpretation. But then the same people have trouble understanding what a hexenbiest is. The comments try to make them human with magical abilities and the ability to woge. There are many examples on the show that explain the wesen concept. Understanding what a wesen is explains the Juliette is dead statement. Hexenbiest like wesen is what you are and how you think. Juliette becoming a hexenbiest causing a complete physiological and mental change. So yes Juliette is dead because she can never not be a hexenbiest. Unlike Wu who has only had his outwardly appearance changed. Juleitte has had what she is changed. Basically she is now a different species. She is now something that is driven by primal impulses. I agree about not taking Juliette being dead literally. I've made the Obi-Wan telling Luke about Anakin being dead comparison a long time ago. He literally said that Vader killed Anakin. It's not hard to understand what he meant by it. That being said, I would like your opinion about Adalind when Nick killed her Hexenbiest spirit. Did Adalind cease being Adalind when that happened? Was she considered dead like Juliette?
11-27-2016, 10:08 PM
Quote:That being said, I would like your opinion about Adalind when Nick killed her Hexenbiest spirit. Did Adalind cease being Adalind when that happened? Was she considered dead like Juliette?I see hexenbiest as consisting of two things. What they are and what they can do. No matter what you do to them they will always be a hexenbiest. The spirit controls what they can do. The spirit is where the magic comes from. Remember, once Nick took Adalind powers. Nothing about Adalind changed. She was still vengeful and willing to do anything to get even. When her powers where suppressed she was not presented with a confrontational situation. So we do not know how that effected the hexenbiest in her. All we know is what she could do was suppressed. When she found out Eve was a weapon. Without her powers she was scared, preventing vengeance from taking control. But even once she had her powers back and Eve confronted her she was still scared. After the fight it is no wonder. She down played it to Sean. But during the fight she realized she was no match for Juliette.
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11-28-2016, 02:05 PM
This show went overboard with their special snowflakes (Diana and Juliette) when both character should be dead.
11-28-2016, 02:49 PM
(11-28-2016, 02:05 PM)Renardfan99 Wrote: This show went overboard with their special snowflakes (Diana and Juliette) when both character should be dead.Hi Renardfan, Trubel shot and killed Juliette (Hexenette) so I agree she should be dead. There is much discussion about her reincarnation as FrankenEve who was also mortally wounded by Bonaparte. Regardless, IMO, the authenticity of the show is severely by her phony death. I am curious about your opinion that Diana should also be dead. Was she also killed? Why should she be dead? Why do you call Juliette a special snowflake? Her behavior seems totally contrary to the phrase "white as snow." http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/181700.html N G
11-28-2016, 03:39 PM
Trubel did not kill Juliette. True she shot her. In eve of destruction Trubel stated Juliette was alive when they took her. In a later episode Trubel told Eve she was not trying to kill her.
If Juliette did not physically die as stated by Trubel who was there. Then calling her change a resurrection is inaccurate. No where in the show do they say she rose from the dead
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11-28-2016, 05:46 PM
(11-28-2016, 03:39 PM)syscrash Wrote: Trubel did not kill Juliette. True she shot her. In eve of destruction Trubel stated Juliette was alive when they took her. In a later episode Trubel told Eve she was not trying to kill her.Nick was also there and he told Hank, Monroe and Rosalee she was dead. 5.01 Grimm Identity: Quote:Nick: There were a lot of them. They must have drugged me or something.Meisner told Hexenette she was dead, but didn't need to stay that way. The writers continue to say she died. By the way, read my post. Reincarnation is not resurrection. N G
11-28-2016, 06:42 PM
Quote:Nick was also there and he told Hank, Monroe and Rosalee she was dead. Quote:Meisner told Hexenette she was dead, but didn't need to stay that way. The writers continue to say she died. New Guy you just can't get past seeing this show literally. From day one the red ridding hood with the cabin in the forest. where all metaphors. The entire show is written in symbolism. Even the wesen are symbolic of human animallistic nature. Nick and the group did think Juliette was dead. That was because they did not know what Trubel's mission was when she shot Juliette. Meisner was not speaking literally. He was talking metaphorically. He was saying inside of her she was dead. That was confirmed by her statement when fighting with Nick about her wanting to die. Her wanting him to kill her. That was not because of what she did but because how she felt. It was also confirmed when Nick meet Eve at HW and she said now I have a reason to live. I think this will be the issue for Eve during season 6. Her being able to deal with Juliette being dead. When Eve said she regretted his not being able to bury Juliette was as much for her as it was for him. She has not had a chance to morn the lost of Juliette.
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11-29-2016, 06:06 AM
I also interpret it so that it was a metaphor.As it has happened in sects that a strong mind presses a weak mind,
that make them believe that the boss is god.I would like to know how they did with Juliette. |
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