04-27-2017, 07:02 PM
(04-27-2017, 04:47 PM)Mrtrick Wrote: Nick and Adalind's situation is incomparable to anything normal. It could only happen in the realm of fantasy. And it's not rape. Nick would have to believe it was, to call it so. Had the writers felt differently, they would have written it that way. As such, the way Nick is presented, is the way that he is. A third party can't come in after it's committed to film, and say it's somehow different. Nick jokes about it with Monroe. Any ill feeling he displays after the fact, is geared toward how it makes Juliette feel. Maybe that's a male centric view on the writer's part. A tendency to compartmentalize the act from the emotion. But it wouldn't be a shock to anyone, to say that men and women view these matters differently. Gender dynamics do play a role, awkward as that may be. Greenwalt and Kouf are men, so Nick's view is inherently filtered through that perspective. Truth is, there aren't a lot of male writers who are especially adept at speaking from the female mindset. But we're pretty clear on our own nature. So, since Nick is also male, it would seem to follow a due course. Had the genders been reversed, it would take on a different context. The basic act of sex is inherently more assaultive for women. Far more vulnerable and intertwined with emotion. I hate to say it, but guys are just more basic on the matter. We kind of have to reign in certain primal directives, to exhibit a more tender sensibility. So from Nick's perspective, the act was just the act, and the aftermath was about damage control. Trying to make Juliette feel better and feeling stupid that he couldn't tell the difference. And maybe it's a bit crass, but I feel like maybe Nick "worked" through any lingering anger at Adalind on this issue, by way of one of those aforementioned primal directives. When Juliette turned into Adalind, you can imagine this as being an example of a turnabout being fair play. He's having his way with Adalind while she's not even there. By the time Kelly is born, this has become a non-issue to him. It clearly has no impact on his sexual attraction to her. To be honest, it has way more impact on Juliette's feelings toward Adalind. For Nick, the most lingering aspect of all this, is how he and Adalind will explain it to Kelly, when he's a teenager.
Just a couple of points, re this:
Nick and Adalind's situation is incomparable to anything normal. It could only happen in the realm of fantasy.
No, there are direct correlations in real life. I experienced it myself with twin sisters, when I found out after the fact I had, uh, entertained the twin of the girl I thought I was dating. No pregnancy resulted but in most respects it was similar.
And it's not rape. Nick would have to believe it was, to call it so
I tend to agree. I do not view what happened to me as rape. But had a child resulted from the action I am pretty sure I would have. the point being, I think from a male perspective it really does depends on your view. So for Hexenalder it would clearly be rape for me not so much. But our stories and life experiences are so much different.
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