02-08-2018, 09:50 AM
Why would telling Renard the truth about going to Germany be the smart thing to do? Please explain that one to me.
02-08-2018, 09:50 AM
Why would telling Renard the truth about going to Germany be the smart thing to do? Please explain that one to me.
02-08-2018, 11:14 AM
(02-08-2018, 07:09 AM)eric Wrote: Mostly fair questions. Before he left Portland, Nick went into Renard's office, told Renard that he was taking personal leave for a few days and did not disclose where he was going(Nick's right). In over 50 years of working for private and public sector employers, when I used personal time off I did not have to disclose where I was going(sometimes I did, sometimes not) , and when I had PTO that I was entitled to be paid for, my check did not go down. In most episodes, Nick was investigating crimes that were on his desk. The fact that he could do his regular job and do his Grimm work at the same does not matter, he was getting paid for his police work. I might add that his reputation for solving "unusual" cases was so good, other police departments were asking for him to help them out--which if PPD okayed it, was legal. Your last point does not really apply to this thread. Nick accepted his Grimm as Marie told him to "hunt the bad and protect the good". Most supervisors would have been happy with him-the FBI told him he seemed to solve a lot of cases. The PPD would have trouble explaining why they would fire an officer who had such a good record--the police union would have been at their throats if they had. Years ago when I was an operations auditor for our company, I had a trip planned for out of the country. I was required to disclose where I was going and the length of time, not because my employer was nosy, but for my own protection. Nick is no different. He works with confidential information all of the time. This wasn't personal leave so he could recover from the flu, but a trip out of the country. It would have been a smart move for him to let Renard know he was leaving the country.
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02-08-2018, 11:55 AM
(02-08-2018, 09:50 AM)Hell Rell Wrote: Why would telling Renard the truth about going to Germany be the smart thing to do? Please explain that one to me.Hi H R, Don't hold your breath for an answer. You and I know full well that the Titular Hero, Nick Burkhardt, would be a total failure to reveal anything about his expedition to Germany to his primary nemesis Royal Prince Bastard Captain Sean Renard. Renard had been doing all he could to steal the Grimm treasure that Nick was responsible to protect. It is well established that Renard was the corrupt cop that Nick had to maneuver around to protect innocent lives. Keeping Sleazy Sean in the dark about the Grimm Treasure was one of Nick's smartest decisions. Chao, N G
02-08-2018, 12:58 PM
(02-08-2018, 11:14 AM)irukandji Wrote:Just curious, what was the chance that the people in that country would target you for murder, to be followed with you as the main course at the victory banquet? How would telling Renard, who might rat him out, have been smart? Nick told Kelly he trusted Renard about as much Renard trusted him. When Renard went to Europe he didn't tell Nick where and why he was going, and didn't share that info when he got back. Nick didn't share much about the trip with Adeline, who shared his bed, a former enemy he trusted to not kill him in his sleep. He wasn't going for a much deserved trip to a spa for recouping his spirit. It was to find a 800 year old relic for which a lot of blood had been shed, per Renard. Nick mostly brought along Monroe because Nick couldn't speak German.(02-08-2018, 07:09 AM)eric Wrote: Mostly fair questions. Before he left Portland, Nick went into Renard's office, told Renard that he was taking personal leave for a few days and did not disclose where he was going(Nick's right). In over 50 years of working for private and public sector employers, when I used personal time off I did not have to disclose where I was going(sometimes I did, sometimes not) , and when I had PTO that I was entitled to be paid for, my check did not go down. In most episodes, Nick was investigating crimes that were on his desk. The fact that he could do his regular job and do his Grimm work at the same does not matter, he was getting paid for his police work. I might add that his reputation for solving "unusual" cases was so good, other police departments were asking for him to help them out--which if PPD okayed it, was legal. Your last point does not really apply to this thread. Nick accepted his Grimm as Marie told him to "hunt the bad and protect the good". Most supervisors would have been happy with him-the FBI told him he seemed to solve a lot of cases. The PPD would have trouble explaining why they would fire an officer who had such a good record--the police union would have been at their throats if they had.
02-08-2018, 03:20 PM
(02-08-2018, 12:58 PM)eric Wrote:(02-08-2018, 11:14 AM)irukandji Wrote:Just curious, what was the chance that the people in that country would target you for murder, to be followed with you as the main course at the victory banquet? How would telling Renard, who might rat him out, have been smart? Nick told Kelly he trusted Renard about as much Renard trusted him. When Renard went to Europe he didn't tell Nick where and why he was going, and didn't share that info when he got back. Nick didn't share much about the trip with Adeline, who shared his bed, a former enemy he trusted to not kill him in his sleep. He wasn't going for a much deserved trip to a spa for recouping his spirit. It was to find a 800 year old relic for which a lot of blood had been shed, per Renard. Nick mostly brought along Monroe because Nick couldn't speak German.(02-08-2018, 07:09 AM)eric Wrote: Mostly fair questions. Before he left Portland, Nick went into Renard's office, told Renard that he was taking personal leave for a few days and did not disclose where he was going(Nick's right). In over 50 years of working for private and public sector employers, when I used personal time off I did not have to disclose where I was going(sometimes I did, sometimes not) , and when I had PTO that I was entitled to be paid for, my check did not go down. In most episodes, Nick was investigating crimes that were on his desk. The fact that he could do his regular job and do his Grimm work at the same does not matter, he was getting paid for his police work. I might add that his reputation for solving "unusual" cases was so good, other police departments were asking for him to help them out--which if PPD okayed it, was legal. Your last point does not really apply to this thread. Nick accepted his Grimm as Marie told him to "hunt the bad and protect the good". Most supervisors would have been happy with him-the FBI told him he seemed to solve a lot of cases. The PPD would have trouble explaining why they would fire an officer who had such a good record--the police union would have been at their throats if they had. Nick and Monroe were pursued by wesen in Germany. I don't think the wesen were coming to invite him and Monroe to dinner because they were visitors to the country, correct?
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02-08-2018, 05:12 PM
(02-08-2018, 09:50 AM)Hell Rell Wrote: Why would telling Renard the truth about going to Germany be the smart thing to do? Please explain that one to me. As precautionary measure against potential terroristic threats. Nick's a law enforcement officer in a foreign country and vulnerable to attack.
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(02-08-2018, 05:12 PM)irukandji Wrote:(02-08-2018, 09:50 AM)Hell Rell Wrote: Why would telling Renard the truth about going to Germany be the smart thing to do? Please explain that one to me. The problem with that is Nick was going there to find the most coveted treasure in the wesen world. The less people that knew about it the better, especially Renard. There has already been a lot of bloodshed in the search for that treasure. He obviously didn't trust Renard with that information. (02-08-2018, 05:19 PM)Hell Rell Wrote: The problem with that is Nick was going there to find the most coveted treasure in the wesen world. The less people that knew about it the better, especially Renard. There has already been a lot of bloodshed in the search for that treasure. He obviously didn't trust Renard with that information. I know you're trying to piece this together logically but that doesn't work either. If Renard was even the least bit interested in finding out what Nick was up to, he'd find out. So Nick doesn't trust him, so what? That's never been a stumbling block for Renard.
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02-08-2018, 08:16 PM
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The grimm treasure was the prize for the royals, not wesen. Those wesen villagers were after Nick and Monroe because they discovered that Nick was a grimm; they never said a word about the crypt or the treasure that were hidden in their neighborhood.
The royals knew that Nick had at least one key, so Nick going anywhere in Europe using his own name would have been like sending out engraved invitations to his search for the treasure. And that includes Renard, because while Nick and the scoobies had a good relationship with Renard at the time, trust didn't extend to the keys and the treasure. Not only did Nick not tell Renard where he was going when he told him he'd be "off the grid," he didn't go running to him to tell him what he had found when he got back, either.
02-08-2018, 10:14 PM
(02-08-2018, 03:20 PM)irukandji Wrote:Okay, maybe I was being obtuse. I didn't say he would be invited to dinner, I said he would BE the dinner. I think Nick's trip was a lot more risky than your's, maybe not. It was secret, and the best kept secret is one known only by two and one is dead(old saying).(02-08-2018, 12:58 PM)eric Wrote:(02-08-2018, 11:14 AM)irukandji Wrote:Just curious, what was the chance that the people in that country would target you for murder, to be followed with you as the main course at the victory banquet? How would telling Renard, who might rat him out, have been smart? Nick told Kelly he trusted Renard about as much Renard trusted him. When Renard went to Europe he didn't tell Nick where and why he was going, and didn't share that info when he got back. Nick didn't share much about the trip with Adeline, who shared his bed, a former enemy he trusted to not kill him in his sleep. He wasn't going for a much deserved trip to a spa for recouping his spirit. It was to find a 800 year old relic for which a lot of blood had been shed, per Renard. Nick mostly brought along Monroe because Nick couldn't speak German.(02-08-2018, 07:09 AM)eric Wrote: Mostly fair questions. Before he left Portland, Nick went into Renard's office, told Renard that he was taking personal leave for a few days and did not disclose where he was going(Nick's right). In over 50 years of working for private and public sector employers, when I used personal time off I did not have to disclose where I was going(sometimes I did, sometimes not) , and when I had PTO that I was entitled to be paid for, my check did not go down. In most episodes, Nick was investigating crimes that were on his desk. The fact that he could do his regular job and do his Grimm work at the same does not matter, he was getting paid for his police work. I might add that his reputation for solving "unusual" cases was so good, other police departments were asking for him to help them out--which if PPD okayed it, was legal. Your last point does not really apply to this thread. Nick accepted his Grimm as Marie told him to "hunt the bad and protect the good". Most supervisors would have been happy with him-the FBI told him he seemed to solve a lot of cases. The PPD would have trouble explaining why they would fire an officer who had such a good record--the police union would have been at their throats if they had. |
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