04-03-2019, 10:06 AM
(04-03-2019, 09:23 AM)Henry of green Wrote:(04-02-2019, 08:59 PM)irukandji Wrote:(04-02-2019, 02:56 PM)eric Wrote:(04-02-2019, 04:27 AM)irukandji Wrote:Okay, I don't know who we are comparing her to , but she was willing to do whatever it took to prevent BC /Conrad's cursed ring from hurting her children. When they were no longer in danger, she left to live with Nick. Since she apparently had been rehired at the law firm, and could have lived anywhere with or without anyone, but choose to live with someone who loved her and her kids, I would say Yes, she is a good example of motherhood.(03-31-2019, 12:23 PM)eric Wrote: The discussion about sexual activity has changed. Many first born babies in the past were 2-3 months premature and weighted 6.5 to 7.0 lbs No one really cared as long as there was a marriage. For those mothers who did not marry, there were places they could go and leave the children to be adopted. As a child way way way back wen I heard more than once that little Mary was taking a trip for 3-4 months. The most recent real life Royal had a bump almost as soon as she got married. You may or may not approve of the current situation, but that's just how it is.
Well, let's take the character of the hour here, Adalind, and baby Kelly. Is Adalind really a much better example of motherhood?
I was comparing Adalind to your example of Mary who took a trip for 3-4 months, presumably to have her baby and then put it up for adoption. In the case of Mary, the baby went to parents who could not only afford the baby, but had the means to care for it as well.
I don't entirely agree with your statement that no one cared about the baby as long as the parents got married. In some cases that would be true, but not always. In some cases it's just as true today, but the opposite is also true for those who have to marry because of a pregnancy.
As for Adalind, I don't hold her as a high standard of a mother simply because she "loved her children". And for that, I blame the creative team. Adalind could have been a self sufficient woman, who intended on keeping her children with her and raising them with her legacy. Instead the creative team had her mooching off of Nick and relegated to the domestic mouse. All this simply to move the BC story forward and to show that even hexenbiests want to be grimms. It was a total waste of an interesting character and one who could have been a great adversary for Nick.
What a totally biased hit piece on Adalind as usual, Adalind wasn’t mooching off anybody she was simply relying on her baby’s daddy immediately after the birth of her son because she was vulnerable and her child was vulnerable. who better to protect them than her baby’s father Nick. It’s not mooching whatsoever it’s simply a pregnant woman in extreme danger and without means to support her child allowing the person who is also 50 percent responsible for the child to help her out, that’s not mooching it’s called being a realistic mother.
Also Adalind within 5 or 6 months of living with Nick is back at work being a lawyer only she is then blackmailed by BC and is forced to basically become a slave at the BC mansion. As BC threatening her children while already holding Diana in the Mansion as leverage. That certainly doesn’t sound like a moocher to me, also though we never see her back to work in season 6 officially ,we also never see her leave the law firm or be fired be fired so who’s to say she isn’t technically still a lawyer.
Also there’s nothing to suggest even if she’s not still a lawyer that she’s never going to be working again, to the contrary during season 5 when she wasn’t working she repeatedly told Nick she couldn’t just rely on him to support her, she even said she was going back to work because she has to carry her weight and what did she do, oh yes she went to work so why would season 6 Adalind be any different.
Also here in the uk and Ireland women are entitled to take up 11 or 12 months maternity leave and most take about 6 or 7 months, so Adalind going back to work 6 months after Kelly’s birth really shows me she certainly more than willing to work and support herself not mooch as you’ve claimed.
Also it’s about time you realized Nick is the hero of this show no matter your view of him thus considered on the good side and Adalind stated she wanted to rise her kids the rigth way and as far as G&k are concerned rising her kids to follow Kelly’s fathers legacy is the rigth way.
Claire coffee even stated in multiple interviews that Adalind considered Nick and the gang to be on the side of good fighting evil.
Henry, lest not forget, after Kelly was born, all of what Nick did for Adalind was offered to her. She never asked for what Nick did. The good in Nick and his realization, Kelly was his son, convinced him to be there for his new born child, so in turn, he also offered to help out his son's mom.
The key word here is "offered". How is it when someone offers her something, and she accepts the offer, makes her, or anyone else, for that matter, a moocher? I must have missed that part my vocabulary teachings when someone accepting an offer, is a moocher.
of·fer/ˈôfər,ˈäfər/verb: offer; present or proffer (something) for (someone) to accept or reject as so desired.
mooch/mo͞oCH/noun: moocher: a beggar or scrounger.
Just imagine, if after Kelly was born and Nick walked away from the whole situation, all the creative name calling he would have been labeled as? But he didn't. The character stepped up and did what a man should do, so now that negative labeling is directed towards Adalind.
This cuckoo conversion of someone receiving an offer to be labeled a moocher can only come from someone trying to create another twisted delusional opinion into a fact.
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