(03-17-2019, 04:06 PM)N_grimm Wrote: Never? I thought that was your point. After all, you wrote: "I almost wonder if there isn't a confirmed hatred of women in there somewhere. Take Adalind, for example. She isn't even raised to the state of prostitution. She's a skank throughout the series". How could i know you changed the subject?
If your intention in using the above quote was proof that I was somehow restricting this entire thread to the female characters in the series, you've missed the mark by a mile. I brought up Adalind as an example of G&K's moral indifference. I never said she was the only example, nor did I state that arguments must strictly adhere to the females of grimm.
(03-17-2019, 04:06 PM)N_grimm Wrote: Morality is a subjective thing, not everyone will agree regarding what is immoral. It is about culture, background, etc. Such a debate can hardly be made impersonal.
Well..........yeah. It wouldn't be an interesting forum if we all had the same views on morality now, would it?
(03-17-2019, 04:06 PM)N_grimm Wrote: So when I ask "is your problem that there was too much sex in Grimm", I'm trying to understand your point. Is it that Adalind is sleeping with men she doesn't have a relationship with or that she manipulates men? That would be a modern version of a witch, although she also put people in direct danger, such as Hank and Nick.
You know, (and I know you're going to play outrage at this), I don't quite get the vibe that your question, "Is your problem that there was too much sex in Grimm" is really an objective desire to understand. I've been on this forum for years and have had posters disagree with me passionately. Most of them have never started a question with "Is your problem (insert whatever). They simply disagree and if they want to know more, they just ask. Fair, objective and put in a way that they are expressing a desire to know my side of it. Just my take on your question.
However, let me try answer the question in a different way, although I doubt it will be adequate enough for you. First, let me go back to your statement:
Quote:Firstly, I've rarely seen a show with so many smart, strong and independent women as in Grimm. Even in fighting scenes, they were all equal or superior.
Regarding the character of Adalind, I don't believe the creative team made her a strong character. Smart? She was an attorney who, according to Nick was making six figures so, there was at least some book smart intelligence there.
Then you come to the one thing I completely disagree with and that's independence. Sadly, Adalind was never really an independent character. She was resourceful and she managed to be an irritant, albeit a defeatable one, for a good portion of the series.
All of this I blame on the creative team. I would have liked to have seen a strong, independent, smart Adalind, who was the alluring femme fatale. She was short changed by the creative team and instead turned into a dependent, not so bright, skank.
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