05-22-2019, 02:16 PM
(05-22-2019, 12:58 PM)N_grimm Wrote:(05-21-2019, 10:18 PM)dicappatore Wrote:(05-21-2019, 10:50 AM)N_grimm Wrote:(05-21-2019, 05:36 AM)irukandji Wrote:(05-21-2019, 04:51 AM)N_grimm Wrote: At least she didn't go for the "I'm not Adalind anymore" version...
But here's the thing. Making Juliette into someone else was the only way to keep Adalind in the series.
You mean the only way to make Nick and Adalind a couple? Adalind and Juliette where both in the show in the first 4 seasons. This is fiction, so I suppose it would be possible to have millions of alterative storylines.
Unfortunately N, some of your critics keep overlooking the fact that the "Adalind" character was much more popular than the Juliette character for the first 4 seasons, if not for all 6 seasons. Killing Juliette and bringing her back as Eve is what saved the Juliette character from being killed off permanently by the end of season 4.
Again, look at this absurd comment;
(05-21-2019, 05:36 AM)irukandji Wrote: Making Juliette into someone else was the only way to keep Adalind in the series.
Anyone watching the undelusional version of the actual show can easily see what took place was the exact opposite. In actuality, Juliette was made into someone else, as to keep her in the series.
What the creative team did was, keep the more popular character, Adalind to become the main character's love interest, to team up with Nick. Meanwhile, they revamped the failed Juliette character into Eve to add and assist Nick in his endeavors.
To all you Juliette fans, what I said about Juliette/Eve assisting Nick is correct. Juliette/Eve wasn't even the main supporting character. She was more of a secondary, better yet, a tertiary one, at best. No matter how much you try to make the Grimm series into a Juliette series, it did not happen.
P.S. To syscrash. How's that for "writers intent"?
This is of course correct. Juliette was probably one of the least popular characters in Grimm. Below I've pasted a survey from this forum: 111 people answered the survey, so it should be quite representative. Keep in mind that this was made before Eve, so it's reasonable to assume that Juliette's popularity would be even lower in season 5-6.
Nick Burkhardt 20 (18.02%)
Juliette Silverton 4 (3.60%)
Monroe 37 (33.33%)
Hank Griffin 1 (0.90%)
Rosalee Calvert 5 (4.50%)
Sean Renard 11 (9.91%)
Sergeant Wu 4 (3.60%)
Adalind Schade 19 (17.12%)
Kelly Burkhardt 3 (2.70%)
Bud Wurstner 7 (6.31%)
Source: https://grimmforum.com/forum/polls.php?a...ults&pid=5
As I recall there was also more said about this on one of the interview or commentary about the show with the mentioning of favorite characters.
(05-22-2019, 04:16 AM)irukandji Wrote:(05-21-2019, 03:01 PM)N_grimm Wrote:(05-21-2019, 02:24 PM)irukandji Wrote: Well.....she was a witch and the creative team didn't seem to be able to find much use for her in seasons 5 or 6.
Without Juliette's death and Adalind's new role, the whole story arc of season 5 would be different anyway.
I don't know what other role could Adalind have been put into. If the creative team thought she was such a popular character, more popular than Juliette/Eve, as (dementedly suggested by one here with no proof to back up such a claim), why then give Juliette a much more meatier backstory to support her new character?
I don't want to get into another boring Juliette versus Adalind debate. All I am saying is that the creative team could only see Adalind as a villain, and thus, maintained her as a villian. Instead of further developing her into a sophisticated villain, (because she was very popular as a villain), they decide to incorporate a rape induced pregnancy into the storyline and force all of the characters into buying Adalind's new worth as Nick's squeeze.
All I can say is 3 things;
1. "The Truth shall Set You Free".
2. "Knowledge is Power".
3. Read N_grimm's post.
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