(05-12-2018, 09:50 AM)Robyn Wrote: Not even close to what I said. Nick agreed to trade protection for a suppressant to help Juliette. The personal connection for Nick was that if the spell hadn’t made Juliette a Hexenbiest, he would still want to protect a child believed to be his.
Not to split hairs here, but wouldn't oversight of his son be part of protecting his baby? Isn't that part of the reason why he brought Adalind and the baby to his house, and then later, the fome?
(05-12-2018, 09:50 AM)Robyn Wrote: But had Nick and Juliette been together at the time, I don’t see Juliette forcing Nick to choose between her and a child he fathered with Adalind. If anything, I’d assume they would just take another baby from Adalind. They gave Renard’s daughter to Nick’s mother, they’d keep Nick’s son for themselves.
I don't believe this for one second. I don't believe Juliette would take Adalind's baby from her.
(05-12-2018, 09:50 AM)Robyn Wrote: Nick pulled his gun because he thought Adalind was imitating Juliette again, and quickly put it away once realizing his mistake. He wasn’t aggressive toward Juliette until the Spice Shop altercation.
That Juliette woged without provocation establishes she wasn’t experiencing fear, but woged without provocation because she hadn’t yet learned to control Hexenbiest inclinations. If Juliette was afraid of Nick she would have left once Henrietta concluded the Hexenbiest was permanent and confirmed her fear that Nick might kill her because he was a Grimm, not stay and tell him about it. I can understanding her fear of the unknown, but if Nick’s response was an unknown to Juliette, she should have ended the relationship long before the reversal spell.
I agree she should have left long ago, but I also see the reason why she stayed. If she's woging without provocation, there's no guarantee that isn't going to happen on the street somewhere. And to be frank, I have no idea where she'd go. After she left Nick, she confessed to Renard that she'd been sleeping in her car.
As for being afraid, Juliette demonstrated that she was afraid. She looked at herself and screamed the first time she viewed herself as a hexenbiest. If that's not fear, I don't know what is.
As you yourself pointed out earlier, Juliette's ability to process rational thought was not incapacitated. She said she was afraid Nick would kill her. Mistake or not, Nick pulled a gun on her. There's no other way to interpret that other than Nick was going to use his gun to kill her. He put the gun away but that doesn't mean it's a forgotten incident because it's something that is unforgettable. A rational mind would equate the incident with being a hexenbiest and thus Nick's potential target. She was right.
(05-12-2018, 09:50 AM)Robyn Wrote: The gang siding with Nick wasn’t a surprising turn of events. I agree Rosalee was disappointing as a friend and as a woman, but, Rosalee expecting Juliette to give up the Hexenbiest for Nick wasn’t a reasonable defense for her retaliation. Juliette set fire to the trailer, attacked Adalind, Nick, and her former friends, aligned with Kenneth and set up Kelly because she was angry and hurt. The Hexenbiest provided her the skills and powers to act out that hurt and anger.
Juliette retaliated against Nick and Nick alone. Rosalee, Monroe and Hank had no vested interest in the trailer or in Kelly. As for the spice shop, it was apparent that they were not there as Juliette's friends, but as a show of force. I get why Juliette didn't give up the hexenbiest.
(05-12-2018, 09:50 AM)Robyn Wrote: Kenneth’s only gamble that I see was betting Juliette’s skills were prepared to defend herself if Nick & crew leveraged an attack. At that point he didn’t necessarily know how powerful Juliette already was. Kenneth probably regretted in hindsight not instructing Juliette to kill them all.
Kenneth took a bigger gamble than that. He had no guarantee that Juliette wasn't going to align with the scoobies when she went to the spice shop. I could say that was a test of her loyalty and she passed it as far as Kenneth was concerned, but that isn't correct either. Kenneth never trusted Juliette after the spice shop incident. If he had, he wouldn't have required that she stay in the hotel with him, where he could keep a watchful eye on her.
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