02-27-2018, 03:32 PM
(This post was last modified: 02-28-2018, 01:11 PM by Henry of green.)
(02-27-2018, 02:42 PM)wfmyers1207 Wrote: Sean obviously. That guy was NEVER for anyone but himself. Period. He'd probably stab his own mother in the back if it suited his purpose.
Excellent post the guy is without doubt garbage and I agree would probably stab his on mother in order to get more power, infact I believe giving the choice between Diania and power he would chose power every single time , as even Sasha Ruiz has said multiple times power matters to Sean more than anything.
(02-27-2018, 02:36 PM)Robyn Wrote:(02-27-2018, 01:41 PM)dicappatore Wrote: Robyn, I am sure the reasons why most disliked Juliette is for the same reasons why I disliked her. 1st, how they wrote her in the "Coma" episodes and then when they made her turn against the main character. Could it be that easy? Yes. Was it the fault of the creative team? Yes. This is what was given on the screen. This is what we have to go with.It is this personal reaction of liking or disliking a fictional character that confuses me. I can understand evaluating characters as interesting vs. boring or simplistic vs. complex, etc. but not based on them behaving the way they were written to behave. I don’t understand disliking one fictional character because he/she is mean to another fictional character. For me it’s whether the actor made the portrayal interesting and entertaining.
Complaining how the writes screwed up her character does not change the character we saw on the screen. As for character Nick, coming in second or third is also due to how the character was written, which is still higher than Juliette.
For me, BT did not accomplish that in portraying Juliette, and when compounded by G & K’s weak characterization & writing, I didn’t have any interest in the Juliette and Eve characters. But as I said in my earlier post, I didn’t have any interest in the Nick character either. He could have been written out of the show and replaced with another Grimm character in S1, and I don’t think I would have wondered about what might have been. But I don’t personally dislike the fictional character Nick because of anything he did to another fictional character.
At the end of the show, it’s exactly that, a show. I didn’t need Juliette to live up to my standards of what a coma patient is supposed to be, nor did I need her to satisfactorily love Nick and support his Grimm endeavors. I just needed for Juliette and Nick to not have less personality than a rock. So I suppose I don’t understand your rationale that discussing the creative team’s approach to characterization and writing is complaining any more than you understand my confusion with liking and dislike fictional characters because of their behavior.
I personally never found Nick boring and always found him likeable that’s why he is one of my two favorite characters but I have zero problem with you finding him boring beacuse we all enjoy different things, plus I can see where your coming from he can appear a bit stiff at times . For example I like Monroe he is my 3rd favorite charecter and like Rosalee alot as well as single characters but personally I always found thier relationship as boring even though every one else seemed to really enjoy thier relationship. I wouldn’t go as far as saying I found Juliette boring but I just never really cared about her and never really found her that likeable even though she was a nice person. I hate Renard but he never really annoyed me because I cared enough to hate him I never even cared enough to hate Juliette except for maybe in season 4 when I felt some hate towards her beyond that though my feelings for her went from simply indifference to annoyance but never cared enough to hate her. Put it this way even though I hated Renard with a fiery passion I would chose to keep him in the show over Juliette if given a choice. I can see certainly see why some people like Juliette a lot though as she is a strong independent woman who was always brave in the face of danger but over all she just didn’t have a enough personality for me even when she was Eve.