(01-04-2018, 07:23 PM)irukandji Wrote:(01-04-2018, 06:05 PM)Hell Rell Wrote: I'm just saying the terminology is incorrect. Labeling it as speculation is only going to cause posters to come and shut it down because it's definitely not true. The idea can't be entertained that way because the show has already shut it down.
It's not unreasonable to label it as an AU scenario. This topic would probably make an interesting thread in itself because posters could come and give their ideas based on the idea being true. I know I can't discuss the idea any further in this thread because it gives this scenario more validity the more it's discussed as speculation. That implies that Adalind may have done this and I and may other posters already know that there isn't anything to even suggest this may have happened.
Hell Rell, your do's and don'ts of speculation are wasted here. It doesn't make a damn bit of difference with regard to how a thread is phrased, labeled, or communicated. People will post if they want to and ignore the thread if they don't. That wasn't happening on this thread, so I'm not sure why you felt compelled to talk about terminology.
I originally thought you might be attempting to be helpful, but I don't get that vibe from your statements. Otherwise you wouldn't have demanded that, "the speculation should end immediately".
Using your logic, this thread should have never have occurred. The series is over and there was never any proof from the series that Adalind was redeemed, viewed herself as redeemed or that the scoobies viewed her as such. And just because you say it's authentic, adding a piece of the show to support speculation doesn't make it so. You can't have forgotten the infamous "What Juliette knew thread", can you? That debate still goes on, no matter how many different threads it's been posted in.
You think there's no merit to my posts, that's fine. You're entitled to your opinion. However, you're not entitled to tell me or anyone else when to end a discussion. That was out of line and not worthy of you.
I'm saying what you were doing isn't speculation. It bears no resemblance to the topic of this thread since Adalind was once considered a bad guy and now she's not. Therefore, asking if or when she was redeemed in the scoobies' eyes is a fair question. There's a good chance that happened so discussing just when it happened or if it happened at all is completely different from saying Adalind cast a spell to enhance her appeal to Nick. Your post has merit as an AU but not as a speculation.
I've had debates with the same posters that debate you about Juliette. I don't know if you read my thoughts about the "Juliette was slumming" and "she was just using Nick" theories. I basically said those didn't have any merit either because there was nothing on the show to support it. Juliette's actions in season 4 were being used to retroactively paint her as a villain in season 2 and I said that was quite the reach as well.
(01-04-2018, 08:43 PM)rpmaluki Wrote: Funny you should say that, during the jail scene of S2, Adalind posited that she and Nick could have fun together under different circumstances, to which he responded by calling her a witch and she replied and said she didn't need to be a witch to work that kind of magic. That may have turned out to be true. Adalind didn't need to use her hexenbiest abilities to win Nick over. By the time they returned, they were a non-issue.
That a good point. We know the crazy circumstances that led to them living with each other but Adalind won him over while her powers were suppressed and probably sealed the deal when she confessed to him that they had returned.