12-05-2017, 02:29 AM
(12-05-2017, 02:13 AM)dicappatore Wrote:Yeah even with that, most of the characters would have ended up where they did except for baby Kelly. Adalind planned Diana. She was taken from her and bad things happened as a result. Even if Adalind never went to Nick for protection for her son, Nick's mother still had Diana and they would never be completely rid of her and we know she was very determined to get Diana back no matter the cost. Maybe without the pregnancy pushing Juliette over the edge, things would look different but I'm not so sure, since Nick was already on Juliette's sh*t list after the whole "kiss me" debacle with the hexenbiest.(12-05-2017, 02:04 AM)rpmaluki Wrote: I know it's only in S5 that the admit to Adalind being a good mother, much to their surprise. Remember they justified taking Diana away for everyone's protection not because Adalind was supposedly a terrible mother, although Kelly was the one who insisted Diana needed to be raises/guided in a particular way and thus be influenced to be good as opposed to evil. I'm not arguing Adalind's moral compass which was still dodgy at that stage.
I'm calling out Nick and his gang for why they didn't think taking and specifically KEEPING a child from her mother wrong once it was safe? Not once did they consider that until Nick lost his Grimm (his acknowledgement of why he was grimmless says as much) and later Juliette becoming a hexenbeist (both Nick and Rosalee admitting it was because of what they originally did to Adalind that was the cause). Basically before it all blows up in their faces, there's a lack of self awareness for their actions past the point of fooling Viktor. It's only when they start suffering its consequences that it's a blip on their radar.
This is why Adalind says to both Nick and Renard that she wasn't the only one responsible for the mess they all found themselves, her pregnant and Juliette a hexenbiest. Nick's guilt only kicked in after Juliette became a hexenbiest and actually promised Adalind at the end of S4 to never take her son away, before he's even born and long before he saw that she was in fact a good mother.
I'm all for the group trying to do the right thing with Diana when they hardly had options. I'm just not down with them continuing the deception unnecessarily and thus turning what should have been a good deed into something negative that ultimately doomed everyone concerned and innocent bystanders in the form of Nick's neighbors.
All I have to say about that whole mess is, Is there a Planned Parenthood clinic in Portland. I hear they give out free condoms.