Quote:(11-14-2017, 02:55 PM)New Guy Wrote: You mentioned that Nick told the scoobies to kill Juliette and this raised a question in my mind. Does Nick have the right to order others to do his killing for him?Hello Iruk,
I was able to find this documentation:
http://www.oregon.gov/dpsst/docs/ethicsvol20.pdf
If Nick were a real PPB detective, his oath would be:
Quote:On my honor,Also,
I will never betray my badge, my integrity, my character, or the public trust.
I will always have the courage to hold myself and others accountable for our actions.
I will always uphold the constitution, my community and the agency I serve.
https://www.portlandoregon.gov/police/
displays the PPB Motto:
Quote:Sworn to protect. Dedicated to serve.Regardless, your statement to Henry:
Quote:henry, I agree with you that Sean is corrupt. But he's been corrupt since the series began. Nick was not. He started out as an LEO that was on the right side of the law.raises this question:
Do you apply different standards to a cop who was "corrupt since the series began," than a cop who "started out as an LEO that was on the right side of the law."
Hello New Guy-
Actually, I never applied any standards to Sean at all. He's the designated bad guy in the series and has been since day one. I mean, what kind of standards can anyone apply to him to make him any worse than he is?
Nick, on the other hand, started out as a good guy. I assume he went on the police force for good reasons, perhaps a desire to help people, to uphold the law, to protect those who can't protect themselves and to make sure justice is fairly administered to everyone, even criminals.
So, one day because of the rantings of an old woman (Marie), Nick decides to throw all of what he worked for away because he no longer has principles. If we're going by the oath you're quoting above, Nick is in major violation. What's even worse, is the man who's really corrupt (Renard), has managed to corrupt Nick.
(11-14-2017, 02:55 PM)New Guy Wrote: I agree that most (if not all) the PPB cops on the Grimm show were "corrupt" based on real world law, but in the Grimm/Wesen world, the rules change the rules.
In one of the final scenes of the pilot episode, 01.01:
Quote:Scene: Nick goes to the hospital and sits by Marie's bed.Could it be Nick is pledging a sort of "Grimm Oath?"
Nick: There's so much I don't understand. There's so many things I need to ask you. Look, I love Juliette. I don't want anything to happen to her. I want you to know, whatever it is I'm supposed to do, I'll do it.
http://grimm.wikia.com/wiki/Grimm
Quote:Grimms served as the (usually) freelance police of the Wesen world, dispatching those who could not live in peace with humans (by contrast, the Wesen Council enforced the internal rules of Wesen society). As a general rule, it was the responsibility of the Grimms to hunt down "the bad ones," those aggressive and malicious Wesen who preyed on humans or other Wesen. The majority of Grimms were only exposed to the Wesen community through these malcontents, leading some of them, namely the Endezeichen Grimms, to consider all Wesen abominations that needed to be exterminated.For most of the series, Nick seems mild mannered for a Grimm.
The final lines for the series end as:
Quote:Kelly, come on.I believe it was Diana's line "We've got Wesen to kill." Note Diana's first kill was in 3.13, "Revelation" she kills a Verrat agent by Telekinetically stabbing him in the eye with a pen. She has an impressive list of victims for such a young person.
- I'm almost done.
- Let's go.
- Diana.
- Hurry up.
I'm coming.
Mom and Dad are waiting.
We've got Wesen to kill.
The triplets are coming, too.
Yeah.
What's taking you so long?
IMO, the Grimm show is about discovery, hunting down and "dispatching those who could not live in peace." Lacking that element, the show would have been a flop. How could it survive WOW monster killers if the protagonist was shackled to real world police procedure? Boring.
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I would have absolutely no issue with Nick pledging some kind of Grimm oath. As long as he resigned from the force in order to be a grimm.
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