(10-30-2017, 02:09 PM)irukandji Wrote:Iruk,(10-30-2017, 10:08 AM)New Guy Wrote: If Juliette did not voluntarily give Kenneth the information, how did Kenneth coerce it from her? Can you provide a scene where he coerced her? Did he coerce her similarly to her methods for obtaining information?
New Guy, there is no point in going back and forth on this. You saw the disagreement with rpmaluki. You believe Juliette voluntarily gave the information, I believe she provided information upon request. I see them as two different things: You do not. It's not going to change because you pose a few questions and add script snippets. I'm sticking with agreeing to disagree on this one.
You are attempting to participate in a Forum. At times participants hold opposing views. These should and often do lead to spirited debate. At times the participants become caustic in arguing their position.
The issue presented to you is not about the opinions held by Forum participants but about the "facts" presented in support of opinions.
I found some articles about this problem:
Why People "Fly from Facts"
https://www.scientificamerican.com/artic...rom-facts/
Quote:a debate that starts with testable factual statements, but then, when the truth becomes inconvenient, the person takes a flight from facts.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denialism
Quote:In the psychology of human behavior, denialism is a person's choice to deny reality, as a way to avoid a psychologically uncomfortable truth.[1] Denialism is an essentially irrational action that withholds the validation of a historical experience or event, by the person refusing to accept an empirically verifiable reality.
The Principles of Argumentation
https://www.csun.edu/~hcpas003/argument.html
Quote:To support your proposition, one must present evidence. There are two (2) types of evidence used in argumentation : fact(s) and opinion(s). Facts consist of items that can be verified or proven.
There has been a pattern of you and others to take a position where the only supporting evidence is opinion. Several of us present well established facts that supports our position and validates our opinion. We place a high value on facts and respect others who present other factual evidence to support an opposing position.
IMO, you practice denialism. In this particular thread you have failed to present any factual evidence and refer to established irrefutable facts as "script snippets" or other derogatory verbiage.
You can concede and redeem yourself, present valid facts to support your position or just throw another tantrum.
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