(12-27-2021, 08:14 PM)irukandji Wrote:It was an interview with the show's creators, Jim Kouf and David Greenwalt (not David Guintoli a.k.a. “Nick”). I'm sure this will lead to a tantrum, but here's the link: https://mashable.com/article/grimm-serie...ts-rosalee(12-27-2021, 05:40 PM)N_grimm Wrote: David Greenwalt was taking about the characters that were not shown or mentioned in the 20 years later scene. He gave nobody carte blanche to change the entire ending. I know it's just speculation. As mentioned, you can write whatever you want, but I also reserve the right to say that it's not really Grimm.
Well which one was it, Guintoli or Greenwalt?
The question posed to David Guintoli was "What happened with some of our other characters? What happened with Renard and Eve and Trubel"?
He responded, "Whatever you think happened to them!"
(I believe the above line is what you're referring to. This was NOT was I was talking about).
Kouf (not Greenwalt, by the way) said this next: "They ALL reformed a new kind of family, having fought evil together, I think they ALL came together with the reality that this war, this battle, will continue and they will fight it together".
David Guintoli added: "And whatever you think happened! It's supposed to live on in your mind. You the viewer. But it's quite probably true that they are all out there, fighting the good fight".
There was nothing in Guintoli's statement there about certain characters, and he did (and I am paraphrasing here) state that it's whatever the viewer thinks happened. He was elaborating on Kouf's statement by telling the viewer it's up to him/her.
There's absolutely nothing about Kouf (again NOT Greenwalt), stating that he was talking about the characters that were not shown or mentioned in the 20 years later scene. You have your own slant on this, but Kouf is talking about "this war, this battle", not some battle that occurred while Diana and Kelly were in the trailer.
Interpret it any way you like. But please do not state such things as, "it's out of control" when the creative team and the star of the show were out of control with their inconsistencies.
Also, your interpretation of the interview makes no sense. They are first referring to the people not shown in the epilogue. Then they take about how they all most likely fought evil together, with is pretty much what we saw during the show, expect for the periods were Renard or Adalind were villains. There is nothing that does not support the face value interpretation of the ending. There is nothing there to suggest alternative universes, or people left behind, or Nick creating his alternative universe, or Diana creating her alternative universe or Nick being dead or whatever you throw in there.
Then, David Greenwalt repats “whatever you think happened!” again referring to the people not in the epilogue. He then adds: “It's supposed to live on in your mind! You the viewer. But it's quite probably true that they are all out there, fighting the good fight”.
This statement is referring to the others and how they all are fighting evil together, i.e., it is consistent with what they just said in the paragraphs above when taking about Nick, Adalind, Monroe, Rosalee, Kelly and Diana. This is also supported by the follow up question: “Was there ever any discussion or consideration of incorporating them into the epilogue”? Note how the reporter refers to “them”, in a follow up question to Greenwalt, who again was a discussing what happened to “Renard and Eve and Trubel” and how they also most likely was fighting evil, even if they were not included in the epilogue.
I’m sure this review of the paragraphs you are referring to will have no bearing on your claims that Kouf and … Guintoli (who was not even present) gave some sort of support for your alternative interpretations. But they did not.